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Baltic 38 DP

Baltic 38 DP is a 38 ′ 1 ″ / 11.6 m monohull sailboat designed by Doug Peterson and built by Baltic Yachts between 1982 and 1989.

Rig and Sails

Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

• SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
• D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
• LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
• LOA: Length overall in feet
• Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

A keel/cb version was also available. Draft BU: 5.0’ BD: 8.6’

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Baltic 38DP

• September 24, 2009

Baltic 38DP - 1980's hybrid cruiser/racer

Product Overview

Manufacturer:, price as reviewed:.

Doug Peterson (DP) used his racing experience to design this 1980’s hybrid cruiser/racer. She had outstanding performance and handling with a beautifully crafted yet spacious interior. Although claimed to be suitable for short-handed cruising, she is not really a boat for a couple to handle on their own. However, she has a delightful after cabin, superb galley and spacious saloon. Only the forecabin, thanks to the very fine bows, was a little cramped. The cockpit is designed for hard, crewed sailing. Like her sisters, she has stood the test of time well. Few come on the market so prices are a premium though hard-raced ones are a little cheaper.

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BALTIC 38 IS A FAVOURITE NOW AND FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS

14 may 2020.

The 31-year-old Baltic 38DP Favorita has completed an extensive six-month refit at our Bosund facility and has been re-launched to re-join her owner who regards the iconic production yacht as ‘a family member’.

Looking as good as new, the Doug Peterson-designed Baltic 38, of which 55 were built in the 1980s, is a great example of how a well built and carefully maintained yacht represents one of the most sustainable leisure items on the market today.

With a new teak deck, re-painted boot-top and rig, professionally polished topsides and deck, re-varnished accommodation and new hoses for plumbing systems, Favorita has been returned to her owner Erkki Laasonen, who has owned the yacht for 25 years. He has maintained her in tip top condition in her home port of Uusikaupunki in the south west of Finland.

Although he carries out much of Favorita’s maintenance himself, Erkki was keen to return her to ‘where she was born’ for more complex and specialist work which he knew required a professional touch for the best result.

Favorita is from another era of design, when the late Doug Peterson was one of the leading exponents of the IOR racing rule which influenced naval architecture in the 1980s. With her fine ends, the Baltic 38 was, and still is, a close-winded and fast upwind yacht noted for her comfortable motion in a seaway.

Innovation was very much on the agenda at Baltic Yachts when the 38 was designed with clever angling of internal bulkheads to optimise space below. Above all she was built to an extremely high standard – built to last, built for sustainability.

There is no reason why Favorita won’t continue sailing for another 31 years and beyond if she is carefully maintained and refitted. As Erkki Laasonen said: “I hope Favorita will continue to be a source of great joy for coming generations.”

As Favorita left, one of Baltic Yachts’ largest builds, the 175ft Pink Gin, launched in 2017, arrived for a programme of maintenance. She will be at our Jakobstad facility for the summer.

In Palma, Mallorca our Service and Refit facility continues to maintain a range of yachts, and is now fully operational following the easing of Coronavirus restrictions.

For more information about Service and Refit contact:

Matthew Lester +34 608 797 100

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Review of Baltic 38 DP

Basic specs..

The Baltic 38 DP is equipped with a finn keel. The finn keel is the most common keel and provides splendid manoeuvrability. The downside is that it has less directional stability than a long keel.

The keel is made of lead. Compared with iron, lead has the advantage of being 44% heavier, which allows a smaller keel and hence less water resistance and higher speed.

The boat can only enter major marinas as the draft is about 2.21 - 2.31 meter (7.25 - 7.55 ft) dependent on the load. See immersion rate below.

Baltic 38 DP is typically equipped with an inboard Yanmar 3HMF diesel engine at 30.0 hp (22 kW), which gives a max speed about 6.0 knots.

The fuel tank which is made of stainless steel has a capacity of 114 liters (30 US gallons, 25 imperial gallons).

Sailing characteristics

This section covers widely used rules of thumb to describe the sailing characteristics. Please note that even though the calculations are correct, the interpretation of the results might not be valid for extreme boats.

What is Capsize Screening Formula (CSF)?

The capsize screening value for Baltic 38 DP is 2.03, indicating that this boat would not be accepted to participate in ocean races.

What is Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed?

The theoretical maximal speed of a displacement boat of this length is 7.5 knots. The term "Theoretical Maximum Hull Speed" is widely used even though a boat can sail faster. The term shall be interpreted as above the theoretical speed a great additional power is necessary for a small gain in speed.

The immersion rate is defined as the weight required to sink the boat a certain level. The immersion rate for Baltic 38 DP is about 241 kg/cm, alternatively 1354 lbs/inch. Meaning: if you load 241 kg cargo on the boat then it will sink 1 cm. Alternatively, if you load 1354 lbs cargo on the boat it will sink 1 inch.

Sailing statistics

This section is statistical comparison with similar boats of the same category. The basis of the following statistical computations is our unique database with more than 26,000 different boat types and 350,000 data points.

What is Motion Comfort Ratio (MCR)?

What is L/B (Length Beam Ratio)?

What is a Ballast Ratio?

What is Displacement Length Ratio?

What is SA/D (Sail Area Displacement ratio)?

What is Relative Speed Performance?

Maintenance

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Baltic 38 dp

The baltic 38 dp is a 38.08ft masthead sloop designed by doug peterson and built in fiberglass by baltic yachts between 1982 and 1989., 55 units have been built..

The Baltic 38 dp is a moderate weight sailboat which is a good performer. It is very stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a coastal cruiser.

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The Baltic 38DP was designed when Doug Peterson stood atop cruiser/racer naval architecture and the Finnish boat builder Baltic was establishing a new high-tech construction standard. With the elegance of beautiful joinery above and below deck, and a powerful masthead rig, the Baltic 38DP was a rare find even then, a true dual-purpose boat. The interior is particularly ingenious, with a centerline double in a comfortable after cabin, plus roomy navigation, galley and salon areas.

Hull and deck construction was of balsa-cored fiberglass with further strengthening in critical areas. The rig and hardware, much of it renovated in 2004, is in good working order. True to its competitive heritage, weight placement of tanks, batteries and engine are optimal for stability and performance.

Shoshanna is a lightly used two-owner boat, spending several years on the hard while her owner was out of the country. Fittingly she was equipped as a cruiser racer, and even has some exceptionally fresh North 3DL sails retaining excellent shape.

• Teak decks (2004)
• Topsides LPU paint (2004)
• New batteries (2020)
• Centerline double in aft cabin
• North 3DL main and headsail
• Maxprop-3 blade propeller

Interior Accommodations

The Baltic 38DP interior is a true exercise in use of space. Baltic specialized in creating exceptional cruiser-racers at a time when yachts were expected to do both well. It was accomplished with a combination of advanced (for the time) construction techniques and innovative solutions to allow both the interiors and deck layouts to meet these needs. Below decks, angled bulkheads and other fixed interior components were utilized to maximize space. Above decks, a large bridge deck allowed ease-of-movement and more space for the aft cabin.

Utilizing the International Offshore Rule-induced beam, an aft cabin was created with 5’10” headroom and a centerline double berth. This aft cabin has port and starboard seats and an abundance of storage for clothes and personal effects.  The space around the bed is surprisingly roomy, a result of the engine being given a vee-drive so the transmission could be located under the stairs. There are four opening ports to provide ventilation.

The galley is L-shaped and adjacent to the companionway. Two stainless steel sinks are near centerline. The large, well-insulated stainless-steel lined ice box is cooled by a newer water-cooled refrigeration unit. There is a three-burner ENO propane stove and oven with Marinetics propane solenoid switch. Just aft of the galley is a hanging locker. The hot water tank is located in a separate locker under the companionway and over the engine. Lockers outboard, four drawers and spaces below the sink and oven provide ample storage for coastal cruising.

The head is to starboard, with separate entrances from the aft stateroom and main salon. The toilet discharges to a holding tank and has a Y-valve for overboard disposal where legal. The sink has a foot pump for fresh water and a pullout mixing telephone type faucet for showers.

The navigation station is to starboard immediately forward of the head. This is a spacious navigation center for both the instrumentation and the navigator himself or herself. The Baltic produced AC and DC electrical panel are on the aft wall of the navigation station.

The main salon is enveloped in luxurious teak, with opposite settees and ample storage in lockers and shelves outboard. Headroom is 6’2”, tapering gently to the forward cabin where there’s  5’10”. There is a centerline drop-leaf table with integral storage. It is centered around the keel stepped mast, giving it a firm attachment point while making the mast unobtrusive. With the leaves extended, a crew of six could have a comfortable sit-down dinner. The teak and holly floors were finished in 2021.

The forward cabin is exceptionally comfortable for a yacht of this size. Because the head is aft, there is space for additional storage and ample hanging lockers to port and starboard. There are flip-out reading lights, plus overhead lights, both to port and starboard.

Marinetics solenoid switch

ENO 3-burner stove and oven

Prisms over galley and nav station

Fluorescent lighting in main cabin

Reading lights at all berths

Centerline drop leaf table

Volvo Ardic O41D diesel heater, 3000 watt (non-operational)

Refrigeration, 12-Volt water-cooled

11-gallon Seaward hot water tank, heated by shore power or engine

Tankwatch holding tank monitor

Red courtesy floor lighting in all cabins

Hot and cold pressure water w/ 45 PSI Sureflo pump and Jabsco accumulator

Galley sinks with pressurized water and foot pumped fresh and salt water faucets

Teak and holly cabin soles (refinished 2020)

Electronics and Navigation

B&G hydra 2000, new in 2004, with GPS, compass with control display in the nav station, connected to a NEMA bus.

B&G Processor

B&G deck repeaters: windspeed, 360 wind, two digital programmable displays

Raystar 120 GPS receiver

Raymarine Ray 215 DSC VHF with cockpit handset

Raymarine hsb2 plus color LCD display

Raymarine RL80C Pathfinder radar scanner w/ speed, depth and heading

NEC Opticlear Multisync LCD monitor

Kenwood KDC 7003 stereo

Kenwood speakers in main cabin

Speakers in cockpit

Hella fan in nav station

Autohelm 5000 Nautech autopilot

6” Danforth binnacle compass

Yanmar 3HMF diesel engine, 30 HP

Shoshanna ’s engine received extensive maintenance (2020) including new seawater pump, heat exchanger removal and reinstallation, and new gaskets, hoses and O-rings as called for

Hurth transmission

MaxProp 3-blade feathering propeller

Racor Parker R245 fuel filter

Teknoflex single lever engine control

Deck and Hull

Shoshanna has beautiful, well-preserved teak decks newly installed in a 2004 refitting. The bridge deck provides a platform for the traveller and mainsheet winch, with the companionway forward. Halyards and controls are led adjacent to companionway. Seat lockers are surprisingly large considering the space devoted to aft cabin. There is a Navtec hydraulic backstay and boom vang, controllable from the port side of the cockpit.

(2) aft seat lockers

(2) Deck prisms provide additional light over nav station and galley

(2) mooring cleats forward

(2) mooring eyes at stern

(2) midships chocks

Novalift outboard lift

Maxwell 800 windlass

5/16” anchor chain

33# Bruce anchor

Mast boot (2020)

Electrical Systems

12-volt DC electrical system with separate engine starting and service battery banks, new gas type in 2019. Charging by alternator off engine or 110-volt Xantrex battery charger replaced in 2004.  110-volt shore power system.

Balmar MC-614 regulator

Xantrax Freedom battery charger

(4) Lifeline Group 31 AGM batteries, 105 amp hours (2020)

Galvanic isolator

Shunts led to navigation station for battery monitors

Sails and Rigging

North 3DL mainsail

Dutchman mainsail furling system (not installed)

Harken mainsail track and cars

North 3DL genoa

Asymmetrical cruising spinnaker

Double spreader aluminum mast

Spectra running backstays

(2) genoa halyards

(2) tapered spinnaker halyards

Spinnaker pole topping lift

(2) Lewmar 48 3-speed secondary winches

(2) Lewmar 48 ST primary winches

(2) Lewmar 40 ST cabintop winches

(2) Lewmar 40 3-speed winches at mast

Lewmar 40 2-speed winch at mast

Lewmar 42 2-speed at mast

Lewmar 40ST centerline mainsheet winch

(4) winch handles

Harken adjustable genoa tracks

(2) large turning blocks to cockpit winches

Centerline staysail track on foredeck

Harken 4:1 traveler

Harken genoa furler

Inboard end spinnaker pole lift track on mast (no pole)

(8) Antal Grip 10 clutches on cabintop

Retractable bowsprit for asymmetrical spinnaker (not installed)

Tankage and Plumbing

Par electric bilge pump model 34600 000

(2) Manual Bilge Pumps, one in cockpit and one in main cabin

Sureflo diaphragm water pump

Jabsco accumulator tank

(2) water tanks, stainless total capacity 48 gallons, under port settee with distribution manifold

Fuel tank 30 gallons, stainless, under starboard settee

Miscellaneous and Safety

Old cable runners

(2) radar reflectors not installed

Bosun’s chair

Misc guidebooks and charts

Flare kit (flares out of date)

Disclaimer The Company offers the details of this vessel in good faith but cannot guarantee or warrant the accuracy of this information nor warrant the condition of the vessel. A buyer should instruct his agents, or his surveyors, to investigate such details as the buyer desires validated. This vessel is offered subject to prior sale, price change, or withdrawal without notice.

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The Baltic 38 is a classic sailing yacht celebrated for its timeless design, exceptional sailing performance, and comfortable cruising capabilities. This yacht is favored by sailors who appreciate the combination of traditional aesthetics and reliable sailing, making it suitable for coastal cruising and long voyages.

With its well-crafted and spacious interior, the Baltic 38 provides comfortable living spaces for extended cruising and adventurous sails. Its deck layout is designed for efficient sail handling, making it a dependable choice for sailors seeking a vessel that combines classic charm with practical sailing performance.

Whether you're exploring remote islands, embarking on extended cruises, or simply savoring the art of sailing, the Baltic 38 offers a timeless and enjoyable sailing experience that appeals to sailors who value tradition and craftsmanship.

Key Features

• Timeless and elegant design
• Comfortable cabins and living spaces
• Efficient sail rigging for ease of sail handling
• Classic cockpit with seating for crew and guests
• Reliable auxiliary engine for maneuverability
• Classic and elegant interior spaces for comfortable cruising
• Smooth and stable sailing performance
• Efficient and ergonomic deck layout
• Perfect for sailors who appreciate traditional yacht design
• May not have all the modern amenities found in newer yachts
• Performance may not match the speed of modern racing sailboats

Frequently Asked Questions

What is the length overall (loa) of the baltic 38.

The Baltic 38 typically has an overall length (LOA) of approximately 37.6 feet.

How many people can the Baltic 38 comfortably accommodate?

The Baltic 38 is designed to comfortably accommodate a crew of 4 to 6 people for cruising.

Is the yacht suitable for solo sailing?

While the Baltic 38 can be sailed solo by experienced sailors, it is designed with a crew in mind for optimal comfort and safety during extended voyages.

What is the typical cruising range of the Baltic 38?

The Baltic 38 has ample fuel and water capacity, providing a cruising range suitable for coastal trips and long-distance cruises.

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The Baltic 38 is a classic yacht, reflecting the craftsmanship and design principles of traditional sailing vessels.

This sailboat's timeless design appeals to sailors who value the elegance and grace of classic yachts.

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38' baltic 38 dp racers and cruisers.

ARCHIVED: This is a previously listed vessel and is no longer offered for sale If you would like assistance locating a similar vessel, Click Here to contact the listing broker.

PRICE JUST REDUCED from $125,000....."We'll See" is a classic Baltic 38 Doug Peterson design.  The boat is located near Richmond Yacht Club in Pt. Richmond.  A in the water survey was completed in January, 2014 for insurance purpose. The vessel features a dark blue hull, full teak decks and a richly appointed teak interior thoughout. 

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LOA : 38 ft. 2 inches

Beam : 12 ft. 4 inches

LWL : 31 ft. 6 inches

Draft : 7 ft. 3 inches

Displacement : 14,330 lbs.

Ballast : Lead/6500 lbs.

Yanmar 3 HMF  27 HP

325 engine hours

Two Fuel Tanks-Stainless Steel/47.5 Gals.

Two Water Tanks-Stainless Steel/63.5 Gals.

One Holding Tank-Plastic/10 Gals.

Please contact Listing Agent Jim Tull directly to schedule an appointment see this boat.  415-233-0801 or [email protected].  Boat is near our Pt. Richmond Office-510-236-2633

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Specifications

Basic information.

• Builder Baltic
• Category Cruiser-Racer
• HIN/IMO XYB380361183
• Condition Used
• Fuel Type Diesel
• Hull Material Fiberglass
• LOA 38'
• Beam 12' 4"
• Max Draft 7' 3"
• Fuel Tank 30 GAL
• Fresh Water 48 GAL
• Holding Tank 20 GAL
• Displacement 14,330 LBS
• Keel Type Fin Keel
• Ballast 6,500 LBS
• Number of Engines 1
• Make Yanmar
• Model 3JH3E
• Power HP 35.00 HP
• Hours 2500.00
• Location Middle

"Sapphire Seas" 1983 Baltic 38'

1984 Baltic DP38

Baltic 38dp

Doug Peterson (DP) used his racing experience to design this 1980’s hybrid cruiser/racer. She has outstanding performance and handling with a beautifully crafted yet spacious interior. She has a delightful after cabin, superb galley and spacious saloon.  The exterior profile of the Baltic 38DP makes one thing clear: This boat was built for the rugged waters. The Baltic 38DP appeals to experienced, passage making sailors or anyone with an eye for beauty and enjoys pride in ownership.

Full Description

• 2023 New Custom made Rudder built by Rudder Craft
• 2023 Genoa Serviced
• 2022 B&G Forward Scan Depth Sounder
• 2022 New B&G Vulcan 9 GPS/Chart-plotter
• 2022 New B&G Autopilot System with Trident 2 Pilot Arm 
• 2018 Navtec Hydraulic Backstay Adjuster Rebuilt
• 2018 New Hurth 150-30RV V-drive Transmission
• 2017 New Harken Roller Furling System
• 2017 New Stainless Steel Standing Rod Rigging
• 2017 2 New Spinnaker Halyards
• 2017 2 New Genoa Halyards
• 2017 New Main Halyard
• 2017 New Staysail Halyard
• 2017 New Reefing Lines
• 2016 New Fortress Anchor, Chain and Rode
• 2004 New Yanmar 3JH3E 35Hp Diesel
• 2004 New Teak Decks, Cockpit and Coaming by Scandinavian Teak Deck AB

Sail Inventory

• 2017 North 4 Batten Mainsail
• #1 155% North 3DL Genoa Serviceable
• #2 135% Quantum Roller Furling Genoa Recently Refurbished
• #3 North Jib Older but Barely Used
• Hood Dacron Trysail and Strom Jib
• 4 Older buy serviceable Spinnakers by North and Hood
• 2015 Asymmetrical Cruising Spinnaker

* The Vessel has only been used for Cruising for the last 8 years.

• Fin Keel with Balance Rudder
• Recessed Anchor Locker
• Fortress Anchor and Rode 2016
• Black Anodized Double Spreader Keel Stepped Mast
• New Stainless Steel Rod Standing Rigging 2017
• Navtec Hydraulic Backstay Adjuster rebuilt 2018
• Solid Boom Vang
• Antal External Mast Track 2004
• Antal Adjustable Genoa Car System
• Harken Adjustable Jib Cars
• New Halyards: 2 Spinnaker, 2 Genoa, Staysail, Mainsail, and 2 Reefing Lines 2017
• Spinnaker Pole and Reaching Strut
• 2 Lewmar ST65 Primary Winches
• 2 Lewmar ST48 Secondary Winches
• 2 Lewmar ST36 Spinnaker Halyard Winches
• 2 Lewmar ST40 Genoa Halyard Winches
• 2 Lewmar ST 40 Halyard Winches
• 1 Lewmar ST40 Mainsheet Winch
• Lewmar Ball Bearing Traveller
• 47" Leather Wrapped Destroyer Wheel

Electronics

• 2 B&G Triton Displays
• B&G T8 Chart-plotter Radar Display
• B&G Broadband Pole Mounted Radar Antenna
• B&G AIS Transponder
• Binnacle Mounted Compass
• Icom M80 VHF Radio

Electrical And Mechanical

• 12 Volt and 110 Volt Distribution Panels
• AGM Group 27 Starting Battery 2019
• 2 AGM Group 27 House Batteries 2019
• Smart Battery Charger
• 30 Amp Shore Power Input and Chord
• Upgraded 115 Amp Alternator with Blocking Diode
• Yanmar 3JH3E 35 Hp installed new 2004
• Hurth HEW 150-30RV V-drive Transmission new installed 2018
• Martec 2-blade Folding Prop
• 2 Whale Gusher Manual Bilge Pumps
• Electric Automatic Bilge Pump 2015

Accommodations

• Double Stainless Steel Sink
• Hot and Cold Pressure Water
• Fresh and Salt Water Foot Pumps
• Force 10 3-burner Gimballed Stove and Oven Like New
• Stainless Steel Lined Top Loading Ice Box with Custom Cover
• Norcold 12Volt TEK II Refrigeration Unit

V-berth forward cabin with storage underneath, hanging locker to port, storage locker to starboard and shelves above the berth on both sides. The main Saloon features a u-shaped settee and drop table to port and an L-shaped settee to starboard. Storage and shelves through out. Saloon cushions were recovered in 2016. The galley is to port the navigation station is to starboard. The aft cabin can be entered from port or starboard and features a centerline double berth with hanging lockers, book case and seating. The head is located to starboard with access from the saloon and aft cabin. The entire vessel features fine Finnish craftmanship.

Brokers Comments

She's a Baltic, built in Finland and designed by Doug Peterson. Baltic's are known for outstanding performance and handling, as well as their beautifully craftsmanship. She is a safe and inviting offshore sailing vessel. This example is well on her way to being restored to her original glory. The teak decks are in very good condition having been replaced in 2004. She has had many upgrades including the engine, transmission, standing rigging see the upgrade list. The Hull is in need of painting but the current owner has decided to leave that project to the next owner and has priced her accordingly.

Mechanical Disclaimer

Engine and generator hours are as of the date of the original listing and are a representation of what the listing broker is told by the owner and/or actual reading of the engine hour meters. The broker cannot guarantee the true hours. It is the responsibility of the purchaser and/or his agent to verify engine hours, warranties implied or otherwise and major overhauls as well as all other representations noted on the listing brochure.

The company offers the details of this vessel in good faith but cannot guarantee or warrant the accuracy of this information nor warrant the condition of the vessel. A buyer should instruct his agents, or his surveyors, to investigate such details as the buyer desires validated. This vessel is offered subject to prior sale, price change or withdrawal without notice.

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I'm very interested in a boat that will be enjoyed 90% of the nights in a slip or a mooring and then day sailing but also to sail to Bermuda or Nova Scotia once per year. The boat will be kept in Rockland ME and mainly sailed in Penobscott Bay. Not yet in retirement couple at 60 but ready to sail for the next 10 years. If you were me, do you have thoughts on the Baltic 38 or would you say: Hey look at this...? $50k to 100k budget recognizing that the purchase price is 50% of what is needed to sail it to Bermuda. Why Baltic or C&C - I like the double bed birth for the 90% nights in a slip or mooring. We've spent a great deal of time on a Sabre 34 and the sleeping arrangement is not as good.  

Cost aside... And it's hard to know how you sail and use a boat... and having owned and lived for some time on a Contest 36s... my comments are as follows. 1. a walk around double in the aft cabin is great. But getting in and out of that double looks like a PITA. Hopefully it has a good mattress. Mine in not walk around but all the cushions are really great foam and very comfortable.... been recovered 2x and look and feel great. 2. teak decks can look great, are very non skiddy but do take a lot of work and most seem to leak at some point. 3. I am used to a tall fractional rig and see many benefits. the 38 DP is a mast head rig. Fractional with a Dutchman is easy to control and reef and powers the boat. It's up all the time I am moving... even motor sailing. Smaller head sail is easier to trim, tack and gybe. Compression post for a fractional is part of a bulkhead not in the middle of the boat/table 4. Good weather the cockpit is where you'll be. It should be very comfortable for sitting or lounging with some sort of table for food/drinks.. and of course protection from sun and rain. 5. head does not look well ventilated in the 38 DP.. can't tell... and very small. I discovered that a forward walk thru head is large, comfortable and has lots of storage, ventilation and no head odors. We use the V as a "closet" and for guests on rare occasions. I prefer it far from where we sleep and cook. 6. Stern boarding ladder looks whacky because of the sloped transom. 7. looks like a very deep draft with a exposed shaft and strut and a tiny skeg they call a spade rudder w/ mostly exposed rudder. 8. anchoring means a windlass... and a large chain locker 9. Lines of the boat are great. She's a looker. And looks like a racer not a cruiser. Likely a fast boat. Interior joinery is beautiful. Penobscot Bay is cruising heaven.... but don't expect to have lots of slips to overnight in (you probably already know that). Good luck!  

I can't help you with the specific boat, but you're very wise to first focus on the 90%. The other 10% can be managed.  

For whatever it's worth, there has been a Baltic 38 DP for sale near me for many years, and I've watched the price drop from somewhere in the mid to low $100s (can't recall exactly), to the current price of $70k. https://www.yachtworld.com/boats/1985/baltic-38-dp-2455211/ Very pretty boat but seems like it may be hard to sell. Personally, it looks like a lot of boat to handle as a cruising boat for a couple. Much more of a racing boat. It's not what I'd be looking at for my wife and my retirement boat.  

What's your fascination with sailing to Bermuda and back? Not only is it a very difficult and dangerous trip most of the time, Bermuda is one of the most expensive destinations you could pick (us$8.50 a gallon for diesel 8 years ago) anywhere on this planet. I'd give that one a definite second thought.  

Curious why you think it is a notably difficult and dangerous passage. It can be both, but it's only 600nm-ish over 4 to 5 days. That's a pretty good forecast window. The gulfstream is the big monster, for sure. At least southbound, you'll have as little as a 24 hour lead forecast to know what you're up against. Good weather windows are key and if you're not flexible, that definitely introduces a problem. I also admit that traveling outside hurricane season means a cold trip in the spring and needing to be very, very flexible for the right window in the Fall. As to cost, I've been seriously pricing out a winter slip in Bermuda. That's their off season, so much lower than normal, and compared to what I pay for winter storage, decommissioning and recommissioning, it's not all that different. Fuel doesn't bother me, as we don't need all that much. Certainly, the cost of living there is high, but it can be managed. Always find the places the locals go, not the cruise ships. Although, there are a few cruise ship type places I like too. One of the real advantages of Bermuda, is not how close it is for the passage, but how easy it is to fly home for whatever (holidays, emergencies, etc). The big downside is there is no where to sail, other than a day sail. However, for us, we're thinking of a place to do winter projects and be notably warmer than New England in the winter. Eventually, we'll winter in the Caribbean, but going back and forth is substantially more involved. Most everyone I know stops doing the New England to Caribbean lap after a few trips.  

The Baltic 38 DP is the wrong boat! These were very well built IOR rule beater racer cruisers. They sail upwind very well but get really squirrelly reaching and running. The rig is wrong for offshore work being a parallel double spreader rig with no aft lowers. The result is that all of these boats that I have seen were rigged with running backstays or checkstays to deal with pumping. They were designed to be sailed with big physically strong crews that could handle the large headsails and make the needed headsail changes that are required due to the mix of comparatively poor stability, the dependence on very large genoas, and the minimal ability to depower the rig. Deal killers for me would be that none of the critical sail adjustments can be reached from the helm (making single-handing much more difficult), the 30-40 year old teak decks, the vee-drive engine (which makes the stuffing box and critical engine components extremely difficult to near impossible to work on), the goofy aft berth (that you cannot sit up in to read, and which is over the counter area of the boat on a boat that is particularly prone to very loud counter slapping), and the companionway, (which I would consider dangerous to use in heavy weather, and requiring a contortionist to get in and out of when the dodger is up). There are a bunch of dual purpose boats that would be suitable for your needs in this price range. This isn't one of them. Jeff  

Jeff_H said: The Baltic 38 DP is the wrong boat! There are a bunch of dual purpose boats that would be suitable for your needs in this price range. This isn't one of them. Jeff Click to expand...

Baltics have a reputation for being well-built, but does this one have a teak deck? The aft double looks like it puts your heads right where transom-slapping wave noise will be maximized. The huge genoa/small main IOR syndrome is obvious in the sailplan -- what other not-so desirable IOR traits are there? It would be worth finding out from someone who’s sailed them how squirrely they are downwind, for example, and if they need a lot of crew weight to hold them flat. And of course, JeffH posted while I was writing...  

Consistent with what I and others said above about this boat, just look at the picture of the 38 on the Baltic Yachts website. Not exactly a couple cruising their retirement dream. https://www.balticyachts.fi/yachts/baltic-38/  

I used to race on a Baltic 35, which is very similar in design to the 38. I agree with most of the critiques offered of this as a less than ideal retirement cruising boat but particularly want to highlight just how terrible the companionway design would be for the intended use. It's basically just a hatchway with a 6 foot ladder down to the cabin sole. When the boat has any amount of heel (which is often because it's very tender), it's not at all fun climbing out of that companionway and once you get to the top you're scrambling on hands and knees across the bridgedeck until you can unceremoniously flop yourself into the cockpit. It may be a good design for preventing downflooding, but IMO is not all that safe for crew in a seaway, particularly older crew. At dock or anchor it's easier to climb out of the companionway in an upright, dignified posture, but what a pain in the a** making that climb multiple times a day would be while staying aboard for extended periods. The companionway design severely limits your dodger options on this boat as well.  

Primarily because I've sailed to and from both of these destinations before and enjoyed them and the adventure.  

They didn't call old IOR boats "Broach Coaches" for nothing. My last boat had a very similar hull form, keel and rudder to that one, and you can be pretty sure it would handle like a beast off the wind, particularly with a following sea. That's not to say a skilled skipper couldn't handle it, but it is hard work. You would likely burn out autopilot motors very quickly too! The rig and sail plan are not as big an issue as the hull. While it is true they were designed for massive genoas and big crews, you would never use the big genoa without a big crew. There is just too much power without a line of "rail apes" keeping the boat flat. The boat will likely be better behaved with a 110% genoa. Typically the old masthead IOR boats with un-swept spreaders also had babystays to control mast pumping, and hydraulic backstay adjusters. The result was that even on a masthead rig the main could be depowered a lot using mast bend. It was something I did all the time on my boat, and as a result NEVER reefed the main. I certainly would not be concerned about strength and stability of the mast, assuming it is properly maintained. I agree that companionway is downright dangerous. I climb ladders all the time, yet I wouldn't want to deal with that one while under way, (or even after a few wobbly pops for that matter!) We were very happy to move away from an IOR boat and into a modern boat. Even designs 10 years newer were far better. IOR led to a lot of serious design compromises. Sent from my SM-G960W using Tapatalk  

Love the picture. That's how I grew up and sail 5% fo the time. So, thank you for reminding me about the 'two of us' thinking.  

I truly appreciate all the posts. As is evident, I haven't posted on this site much but I've been reading it for years. Having the comments directed at my current interests, wow, very helpful and mind shaping. I'm an experienced sailor and day sailboat owner for 30 years with larger boats charter or crewing experience and appreciate such very specific feedback. A sincere thank you.  

Question because I am considering a Sabre 38 because I want a lifting keel/centerboard boat that can do some blue water and don't have 200k-300k to spend. This boat seems like a good compromise. You have sailed a 34 and feel it is a little too small. Have you considered a 38 and if so why do you feel it is not a good option. Would love feed back on this boat. Thanks Foster  

A quick off the top of my head list of better choices: Best Choices: Aerodyne 38 C&C 121 Dehler 36 SQ, Dehler 35 CWS, Dehler 39 (this one will probably be too expensive), Farr 1020, Farr 11.6(AKA Farr 38), Farr 1220, Hanse 371 J-35c, J37, J-37c, J-40 Lightwave 395 (Oyster) Quest 40 (Holby Marine- Roger Martin) X-362 Sp, X-37, Second tier: Bristol 33/34 Dehler 38 Express 37 First 42s7 Farr 37, Farr 395 J-110 Tripp 37, Tripp 38 Varianta 37 Offshore oriented: Brewer 12.8 cutter Hughes 40 cutter Najad 373 Nordic 40 Pearson 36 cutter, Pearson 386  

Jeff_H said: A quick off the top of my head list of better choices: Best Choices: Aerodyne 38 C&C 121 Dehler 36 SQ, Dehler 35 CWS, Dehler 39 (this one will probably be too expensive), Farr 1020, Farr 11.6(AKA Farr 38), Farr 1220, Hanse 371 J-35c, J37, J-37c, J-40 Lightwave 395 (Oyster) Quest 40 (Holby Marine- Roger Martin) X-362 Sp, X-37, Second tier: Bristol 33/34 Dehler 38 Express 37 First 42s7 Farr 37, Farr 395 J-110 Tripp 37, Tripp 38 Varianta 37 Offshore oriented: Brewer 12.8 cutter Hughes 40 cutter Najad 373 Nordic 40 Pearson 36 cutter, Pearson 386 Click to expand...

A few more: Best Choices: Elan 362, Elan 37, Elan 40 Omega 36 Second Tier Elan 36 Ericson 36 (Holland) Grand Soleil 37 (Mid-2000's) Kalik 40 (Concept 40) Omega 34 Sydney 38 Wylie 39 Cruising oriented: Niagara 35  

Halberg Rassy 35 Contest, 36, 38, 41  

One boat that I forgot to mention is the Cape Fear 38. These would be a perfect boat for Merryweather's objectives. There was not a lot of these boats made and a few were stripped out racers, but these are great boats all around. Jeff  

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