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1976 custom ferrocement

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live aboard opportunity. solid professionally built ferro hull with solid teak cabins. interior built with Honduras mahogany, brass, copper.

Equipment: twin steering stations, cable & chain and hydraulic. hd davits, 200 solar panels,3000 inverter, pressure cold/hot water, three burners stove /oven. refrigerator/freezer, icebox, radiant heater, 8000btu diesel heater, sails with stack pack.manual windlass, three anchors, rode/chain. 6”bowsprit.

Rig and Sails

Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

• SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
• D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
• LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
• LOA: Length overall in feet
• Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

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Item 127 SOLD ENDURANCE 35 factory built by Windboats, with set of new unused sails, Perkins 4 cylinder engine, rig and hull in very good condition, deck has leaks, I have just replaced the coach house roof and have marine ply to do the repairs on the decks. The boat needs very little spending on her just hard work,to bring her up to a blue water cruising yacht. I have begun the work and estimate that it would take about 2 months to complete, I just dont have the time, I have purchased a lot of the materials and paint, this would come with the boat. There are 6 sails, 3 of which are new, as I bought them for my father who has not sailed the boat for over 18 months. more photos on request. The boat with work complete should easily be worth around £40k, I am looking to sell her for £8,750 no offers as I paid £6k for the sails. I will be continuing the work slowly on the boat in my spare time, the boat is available for viewing anytime in Falmouth Cornwall UK

Item 126 For Sale Endurance 45 built by Windboats in the UK in 1978. Perkins 4 cyl 85hp engine. Regularly maintained and ready to sail anywhere.Lying Annapolis.Maryland. $99,000.00US Contact: Ashley Andrews Mobile, 705-733-5939 and Home, 705-812-8110 [email protected]

Item 125 For Sale A beautiful example of a Samson Marine ferro-cement boat. Similar to the C-Shrike,the hull was laid up by Samson 1982. She's had an up and down past and the current owner has done a lot of work to restore her, but the last couple of years have been tough and I'm getting too old to continue with the project. The hull is bullet-proof and all the tanks and through-hulls are in good shape, but there is some rot in the cabin structure. The engine (Yanmar 4JHE 44 HP) suffered water damage and is coming out - I have a replacement 4JHE to go in shortly. I'm interested in finding someone who wants to take her on. Any offer will be considered. Canadian registered, she is currently at Point Roberts, WA. Contact Dave - [email protected]

Item 124 For Sale. Engine and equipment intended for 50' C-Deuce Ketch I have the following items for sale that were intended to go into a C.F. Norris designed Sampson Marine C-Deuce Ketch. This was my dad's project but he died about a year ago before his dream could be realized. All items listed below were purchased 20+ years ago but still new....never used or installed. I would prefer to sell all items as a package but will consider some individually. All items available for considerably less than today's pricing. - (1) Tempest 70 HP Marine diesel engine complete with PRM 2655 gearbox, gauges, tach, switch and keys, and Morse single control lever.(Engine still in shipping crate). - Stern gear: Prop shaft 1.5" x 9'6" overall length. Stern tube 5'10". Prop 20" dia/15 pitch, couplings left pilot bored, right hand rotation. - Wagner hydraulic steering system, model N 175-1000 single rotation. 2" bore tiller arm. - Helm control valve (3 way). - (16) 9" naval brass Portlights by Den Ouden. - (2) Skipper Seaclo toilets. - Dozens of required hull fittings (bronze). Fullway seacocks, straight tail pieces, curved tail pieces, thru hulls, vented loops, scoop, deck fills. - Compression columns: (1) 6"x6"x8' and (1) 4"x4"x8' - S.S. angle irons: (1) 4"x4"x3/8"x10'8" for engine beds, (1) 3"x3"x1/4"x10'10" for engine room, and (1) 3"x3"x1/4"x9'5" also for engine room. - (2) SS rods 3/4" dia x 12'7". Note: All SS is 316.Please call/email for prices along with any questions you may have. Pictures of the above items available upon request. Everything listed above is currently stored in Essex, Maryland, USA, just outside Baltimore. Contacts. Home phone: 410-394-0878. [email protected].

Item 123 For Sale. Brigantine/Schooner. 33'; draft 5'; beam 11' displacement 20,000lbs. The square sails can be lowered/removed and the boat sailed as a gaff staysail schooner. Built in 1982 to a Bruce Bingham design.Sail area:1011 sq ft. Sails Dacron. Sail covers. Stainless steel rigging. Dacron running rigging. Black Awlgrip topsides, recent antifoul.Gaff rigged main, Gaff topsail, Main staysail, Fisherman (Nylon), Top gallant square, Topsail square, Main fore square, Jib-fore roller furling, Jib staysail. Asahi self tailing winches x 3.Freshwater tank 75 gal; Fuel 70 gal, Izuzu 40 hp diesel with less than 900 hours use.Varnished teak interior, 2 forward berths, 1 pilot berth. Lectrasan head. Pressurised water, double stainless sinks, propane stove/oven, AC/DC refrigeration. Electrical. 12 v, 110 v shore power. Custom built electrical panel. Lewmar battery charger Electronics: depth and boat speed, wind indicator, 2 vhf radios and a stereo/cd player. 2 anchors, dock lines, fenders etc. Extensive Canvas covers for brightwork Located Portsmouth, Virginia. Asking $80,000 Tel: 757 285 4978. Contact [email protected]

Item 122 SOLD Samson Marine C-Smoke, 40ft located in Nanaimo. B.C. Canada. Asking C$45,000.

Item 121 For Sale. Samson Marine C-Midge, 30ft Bare hull completed1977. Boat as ictured was 90% completed (excluding rig) by 2003 and then due to illness has suffered deterioration of coach roof and bulkheads caused by water ingress. The boat would now benefit from some TLC from an enthusiastic and capable person with woodworking skills as there are significant repairs to be made to the coach roof due to rotting of marine ply bulkheads and cabin top due to water ingress through tarpaulin. The hull remains in excellent condition and has not been launched and would make a capable and comfortable cruising boat. Original plans can be provided. Volvo MD2B also available. Price 6,960 pounds sterling, lying Essex. UK. contact [email protected]

Item 120 SOLD. Hartley Royal Suva 1986 - 52ft Ferro Cutter. Beam - 14.5ft Moored - UK, Isle of Wight. Professionally built by Colin Brookes himself. Long keel, flush deck, cutter rig, pilot house. Very spacious, strong and sea kindly vessel with massive potential, finishing required no sails or instruments. 6 cylinder Ford Mermaid engine. 60ft z-sparrs mast, high quality standing rigging. 2 separate double cabins, large saloon and galley, single cabin/hallway, shower/heads plus further space for second shower/heads. Spacious wheelhouse/bunk. Reflex central heating/in-built fridge/freezer/washing machine/large 4 burner oven and hob. 3 large polypropylene water and diesel tanks. 10 x 110Ah batteries, 12 x 24 & 240v.systems, 24v inverter/charger, separate 12v charger. Masses of storage Lewmar self tailing winches, Whitlock Lewmar mamba steering system. 24v Lofrans windlas, 30m galv anchor chain. Beautiful boat with huge potential, could take you anywhere in the world and is a comfortable home. Price: £85000 -

Item 122 SOLD. Short's Navy, professionally built by Ferro Marine Services of Burnham on Crouch, England in 1973 to a design by Colin Petrie. Salar 40 moulded GRP deck. British registered and is currently lying in Central France. 12m long, 3.74m beam and draft 1.5m. Lifting keel with a total draft is 2.5m. Engine is a Perkins 4236, 80hp diesel. Two stainless steel tanks with a capacity of 818 litres. Water in 3 plastic tanks with a total of 580 litres capacity. 40 litre holding tank. Electrics are shore power and a 12 volt system, run off three 200 amp batteries and a Constavolt battery charger. Two compasses and a hand held bearing compass, hydraulic steering, Wagner autopilot, Westmarine VHF, Navico log and echosounder, Garmin GPS and Navtex weatherfax. 60lb CQR anchor and a 40lb Bruce. Maxwell Nillson 1000 watt electric windlass with approx 100 metres of chain and 50 metres line. New rigid dinghy, Honda 2hp outboard and various warps and fenders. Lifesaving equipment comprises two lifejackets, two harnesses, two horseshoe rings, three fire extinguishers, a manual bilge pump and an engine operated Jabsco bilge pump. The accommmodation is of double berth and two single berths. The galley is fitted with a 12 volt Frigoboat custom built fridge and freezer, a Taylors 041 gas cooker with two burrners, oven and grill, microwave and double sink. There is one head with shower. We have been cruising the French inland waterways for the last three years and so there are no masts, sails or rigging. Asking price of 20,000 euros. All reasonable offers considered, including part exchange for motor home.

Item 121 SOLD at auction. Hartley Tahitian 45 feet. Build 1981. Ketch rig. Renewed and repaired 2004-2008.

Item 120 For Sale. "Mithrandir" - 37' Samson C-Crest Ketch. Launched 1978. Canadian registered vessel. Built in Victoria, B.C. Canada. Professionally plastered. Lee sails - mizzen, mizzen staysail, mainsail, jibs (2), genoa, spinnaker, storm sail, storm tri-sail. Aluminium masts and all stainless rigging. Barient self-tailing winches. 240 feet of 7/16 inch chain. CQR and Danforth anchors. VHS radio. Recording depth sounder. Volvo MD2B engine. Hydrovane self-steering. Wind generator. Two 20 gallon fuel tanks. Two stainless steel baffled water tanks (approximately 100 gallons total). Dickinson diesel stove and oven. Interior - mahogany bulkheads and trim, red cedar cabin ceiling, teak and maple flooring. Sailed from Victoria, B.C. to England 1982-1983. Great blue water sail boat and/or live aboard. Located in Victoria, B.C. Canada. Needs work to cabin cockpit and toe rail. Owner must sell due to illness. Asking $14,000 CDN. Please contact [email protected]

Item 119 SOLD. 42' Ketch Aft Cockpit Motor Sailor - Ian J. Ross design. Launched on 1980, Length is 48' including bowsprit, beam-12', Draft 6'-4" (full keel), Displacement 46,000lbs (internal ballast). Wheelhouse & cabinet are solid teak on plywood. Decks are Ferro cement, cockpit is fiberglass/plywood. 6ft long solid teak bowsprit with teak grating. Hatches & davits are Atkins & Hoyle. Wheelhouse has steering station as well as cockpit. 85 hp Ford diesel, Fuel & water tanks are custom stainless steel, 21" 4 bladed bronze propeller. Interior is solid mahogany with teak & holy sole. Masts are aluminum with galvanized standing rigging. Sails include main, mizzen, #1 & #2 jibs. The hull is constructed with 7 layers of square welded mesh sandwiching 2 layers of high tensile rods, cement was applied from the inside & pushed through to smooth off on the outside. We have a complete set of pictures during the building of the boat. She has been in dry dock, (at Port Credit Yacht Club, Lake Ontario, just outside of Toronto, Ontario, Canada) for the last 4 years and requires TLC. These pictures were taken 5 years ago. Many more pictures for interested parties. Dinghy is not included, (that is seen in picture). offers

Item 118 For Sale. Brimstone, one of Mike Peyton's trio of sailing boats is a 35 foot (38 foot with stern platform) ketch built 1976 and is only up for sale because following a recent knee replacement (and a second imminent), I'm not quite as nimble around the decks as I used to be. My wife and I have thoroughly enjoyed our three seasons aboard in the Mediterranean and will certainly miss her. She is fully equipped with: auto pilot, radar, GPS, chart plotter, new DSC VHF radio, inverter, Duogen (water/wind) charger, 35w solar panel, navtex, "intelligent battery charger", CD player, usual instruments etc. She has a lifting keel and a powerful Ford Mermaid 54hp diesel engine. Brimstone's hull has also recently been totally cleaned off below the waterline and been repainted. She is also equipped with a 25 gallon holding tank, which is ideal for those secluded Med anchorages. In addition to her furling genoa, slab reefing main and mizzen, her sail wardrobe includes: flying jib, storm jib, trysail, mizzen staysail and cruising chute with snuffer. There is also a moveable inner forestay. Recent upgrades to the vessel include: completely refurbished cockpit and decks, reupholstering and painting of main saloon, new bilge pump (total two manual), gas alarm, electric galley water pump, new stern gland. £23,000 ono. Home+33 (0)4 50567420. Mob +41 (0) 79 457 3846

Item 117 SOLD. 63' LOD Samson "C-Witch" Staysail Schooner. A true blue water cruising yacht. Perfect for that family world cruise or charter business. Magnificent interior constructed to yacht standards of all solid woods as well as the deck which is all wood laid over laminated beams and capped with 1" thick air dried Burmese Teak. Full sail inventory. Over $450,000 invested in construction. One owner since new,licensed Captain/Experienced professional yacht builder,launched in 1976, recent haul out,excellent surveys. Must sell due to owners age and health,Asking $125,000.

Item 116 For Sale. Samson C-breeze, Ketch Rig, center cockpit. Length: 50 ft-15mt (incls bowsprit), Beam: 11.5ft - 3.50mt. Built in uk, was SSR registered. World Cruising/Liveaboard with reputuation for seaworthiness & sea kindliness. Cruise in comfort, style & safety. Total restoration. She's stripped and engine removed. The hull is perfect, needs painting. The aluminum masts are in excelent shape. Has a British Leyland diesel engine type 4/98 (injectors missing), gear box, propeller and shaft. 2 Inox Water tanks, 1 Diesel tank, a, Hydraulic steering and sails. Unfortunatly I must give up this dream, my life had a dramatic change and I have to sell. Lying in Dry dock in the South of Portugal, Algarve, Portimao. In site there are several builders and ship repair companys. Asking $45,000 / 35,000€ - offers Contact: Romeu Domingues [email protected] +351 919 756 699

Item 115 SOLD 1980 cutter Samson C-Deuce. LOA 50', 42' on deck, 15.5' beam. Full keel. Draft 6.5'. Documented vessel. Sleeps 6. 1 head with shower. Galley overlooks large salon. Large pilot house seats 6 adults. Large forward V berth sleeps 2. Aft berth sleeps 2. Salon converts to sleep 2. Pilot house can also sleep 2. 7.5 kw Onan generator. 100 hp Detroit Diesel engine with crawl space. 2 portable A/C units. Fishfinder, shortwave radio. Marine CD player/radio. Genoa and main sails. Main in poor condition. Hull is water tight below the water line. Stuffing box not attached. Some deck leaks. Bottom paint needed. Motor not running. Wood trim & deck need work. Great live aboard. Needs TLC. $4,999.00. Insured and docked at Fort Myers Beach, Florida.

Item 114 SOLD Asking $28,000 US. On Mooring Near Palm Beach Florida USA 40 foot King & Choie (KC 40) Cutter rigged bow sprit ketch 44 FOA 11.5 beam 6 foot draft. Designed in Ferro Cement by Sampson for K&C. Cut Away Full Keel.Ferro Cement Hull number four built in South Korea in 1973. Modern Cabin/cockpit upgrade with ten ports and four hatches. Mostly Teak Interior.Great livaboard boat has been home for ten years. Now moving ashore. Everything to start your cruising adventures. Volvo MB 3 B with 100 amp Alt. Hood Roller Furl Head sail with extra sails, Seven Winches. Large manual windlass, Chain, and Anchors. Whisker Pole.Deck wash down. Propane system with force ten stove/oven, Nocold refr. Ship Safe, Shore power and Shore Water. Wind Generator, Inverter, Ham Raio with SSB freqs, VHF, Depth/fish, two GPS, Helm computer with chart software and charts, Wheel Pilot, compass, etc..Aspen Glow Lighting with LED Night lighting.Home theater, Two TV's,One set Scuba Gear, 10 Foot Inflatable with 15 Yamaha. Includes mooring.It even comes with a three year old siamese boat cat if you like him.

Item 113 For Sale. "NAGUAL", Endurance 35. Complete refitt 2007 Hull, sails, motor, spars. Built in the USA, North Carolina in 1976. Professionally plastered very fair hull, finished with epoxy and 2 -part urethane paint. Many pictures of the job. Well equipped for long sailing trips, cruising or live aboard, All sails in very good condition.Roller furling genoa, Staysail, Main, Gennaker. Power Nannidiesel 2.50 diesel = 50HP 200hours. J Prop 3 Blade Bronze 18"folding propeller. 2 Barrient 28+ winches refitt as new 2010 ( Hutton Arco australia ) Alu Sparcraft spars, Norseman fittings Bimini, dogger etc, Lofrans Tigres 1200W anchorwinch, 3 anchors. Aries windvane pilot. Panda generator 4800KVA. Dickinson stove Now in Pointe a Pitre, Guadeloupe, French Western Indies. Asking 70 000 Euros Contact, [email protected]

Item 112 WANTED FERRO SAILING YACHT 55 TO 80 FT LONG PROJECT OR READY TO GO OR WORK REQUIRED EMAIL PHOTOS AND DETAILS TO [email protected]. From Gerald webb mob 0044-7964-919-721 or via email address above

Item 111 For Sale Brenda, Built 1986, Length: 13.76m. Engine: Perkins 1983, 96hp. Mainsail, Genoa I Furl, Compass, Log, Echo sounder, Wind direction finder, Anemometer, Navigator, GPS, Plotter, VHF-radio, Self steering gear, Fish finder, RAdar. Cockpit: Hood, Sprayhood, Boom tarpaulin, Boom tarpaulin, Cockpit telt, Cockpit table, Teak deck, Teak sole. Inboard: Heat, Cooling box, Refrigerator, Galley, Cooker, Oven, Fresh water, Hot Water, Toilet, Holding tank, Radio, Tv, CD-player, DVD-player. Anchor, Dinghy, Fenders, Life ring, Winter tarpaulin, Fire extinguisher. Batteries, 220V shore-power, Winch, Guardrail, Bathing ladder, Windlass, Bow propulsion, Build at yard. A well maintained yacht built for the great oceans or as a home all year around. The interior is of very high standard with top class woodwork. Bow thruster, startengine, generator, new pumps 2007. Good sails. Moored in Southern part of Sweden. price 1,052,000sek. Contact Paul, [email protected] +46-761-714343

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The pros and cons of ferrocement boats.

• Thread starter Lloydroberts
• Start date 12 Jan 2015
• 12 Jan 2015

Lloydroberts

I have noticed a few ferrocement yachts for sale at prices that seem very reasonable for size by comparison. These are around 25 years old. Has anyone got any experience of owning such a yacht and any advice on maintenance needs/pitfalls etc. Tia.  

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Almost without exception they will be home built and/or home fitted-out. Some (S.Y. Pause) will be superb world-girdlers. Others will not. Watch out for, amongst other things, over-engineered hulls which are just too heavy, particularly at the ends, and corroding metal reinforcing. The stuff can be a mare to drill. Allegedly they are easy to repair. Like glyberfarce, paint is optional. I was on a fairly new 1970's ferro boat which struck the Goodwins in a wave trough. She cracked from gunwale to keel but we were able to motor home, albeit with a blue and orange escort. (I was about ten, so details scant)  

Very heavy, very slow, and if you hit something and crack the hull, it's trash.  

• 13 Jan 2015

LittleSister

Reason for low price is because many are wary of them. Quite a few are poorly built (especially in terms of over-built, as said previously) - you can usually spot these a mile away - but there are some absolute beauties out there (probably most would never know they were ferro), not only, but mainly, the professionally built ones. Yes, overbuilt ones will probably be slow, but they certainly aren't all slow. Contrary to what you would think, a ferro hull is not necessarily all that heavy, but it's a form of construction best suited to big boats (you can't scale down the thickness of the hull too far), and smaller ones do pay a significant weight penalty. (There's even a ferro dinghy in the Norfolk Broads museum, but it's VERY heavy.) If there are not detailed records of the build you may find difficulty getting other than 3rd party insurance without cores being taken and assessed by a surveyor. Yes, very easy to repair. I was in a group of boats setting off from Essex to Holland years ago. As we were settting off from a pontoon in Essex, one of the ferro boats got caught by the tide, impaled on a projecting scaffold pole, and holed just above the waterline. Having checked he was OK, the rest of us headed off for our voyage. He stayed, repaired the hole with epoxy cement, caught us up the next day. Another ferro boat I knew was accidentally grounded, and as the tide went out it lay with the turn of the bilge on the stump of a post or something similar, and holed. Again easily repaired (clearing up the mess from the flooding was the big job). I've happily sailed thousands of miles on ferro boats, and wouldn't rule out owning one, but I'd want to get a good understanding of how well built it was before I parted with my cash.  

SAPurdie said: Almost without exception they will be home built and/or home fitted-out. (If there are not detailed records of the build you may find difficulty getting other than 3rd party insurance without cores being taken and assessed by a surveyor.) What a load of tosh. I have a 1982 Windboat 44 ( Windboats of wroxham built oysters) She is fully comp insured by Yachtmaster Insurance with an agreed valuation,no detailed build records or core sample requested. Surveyed by Martin Evens twice. once 8 years ago when i bought her and again last year as my insurance company want a survey every 7 years, again no core sample required. She is a heavy displacement sea kindly. safe.dry blue water cruiser with a decent turn of speed. There are some very good Ferro Boat websites,one of them is http://www.ferrocement.org/ I would not buy a home built one https://moonshineofmersea.wordpress.com/ Click to expand...

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Lloydroberts said: I have noticed a few ferrocement yachts for sale at prices that seem very reasonable for size by comparison. These are around 25 years old. Has anyone got any experience of owning such a yacht and any advice on maintenance needs/pitfalls etc. Tia. Click to expand...

Not so easy to repair if running into something underwater, the mesh armature means one cannot stuff something in the hole ! I've read here that insurance is tricky on home built ones.  

Seven Spades

My question is why, why would you want to bug a boat that is slow and heavy? I assume it is because it fits your budget but with a bit of imagination you could get a really nice fibreglass boat like this for next to nothing. http://www.yachtworld.co.uk/boats/1...aft-Apache-2663685/United-States#.VLTLjsZrY9Q  

I owned a 52 foot ferro boat for two weeks. We (wife and I) were sailing in Yugoslavia when the guns started blazing. Most sensible yacht owners were fleeing out of there. We were planning to when we saw a 52 foot boat built in OZ for a ridiculous price because the Ozzy owner was desperate to get out of there. By air. So I bought it. Wife took the overland route back to Sweden while I planned to follow after I decided what to do about my now TWO boats. While still dithering after two weeks I was surprised to see a Norwegian guy aboard my new 52 footer. After an exchange of words h showed me a bill of sail for the boat which he bought cheap from a woman (my wife as it turned out) he met on the ferry to Sweden. So I owned one for two weeks. My wife rejoined me later during a lull in the fighting and we sailed our boat through the NATO blockade to Italy. By that time my ex 52 footer had a one meter diameter hole in her starboard side. My grateful thanks to my sensible wife for getting me out of that folly.  

Bobc said: Very heavy, very slow, and if you hit something and crack the hull, it's trash. Click to expand...

LittleSister said: Reason for low price is because many are wary of them. Quite a few are poorly built (especially in terms of over-built, as said previously) - you can usually spot these a mile away - but there are some absolute beauties out there (probably most would never know they were ferro), not only, but mainly, the professionally built ones. Yes, overbuilt ones will probably be slow, but they certainly aren't all slow. Contrary to what you would think, a ferro hull is not necessarily all that heavy, but it's a form of construction best suited to big boats (you can't scale down the thickness of the hull too far), and smaller ones do pay a significant weight penalty. (There's even a ferro dinghy in the Norfolk Broads museum, but it's VERY heavy.) If there are not detailed records of the build you may find difficulty getting other than 3rd party insurance without cores being taken and assessed by a surveyor. Yes, very easy to repair. I was in a group of boats setting off from Essex to Holland years ago. As we were settting off from a pontoon in Essex, one of the ferro boats got caught by the tide, impaled on a projecting scaffold pole, and holed just above the waterline. Having checked he was OK, the rest of us headed off for our voyage. He stayed, repaired the hole with epoxy cement, caught us up the next day. Another ferro boat I knew was accidentally grounded, and as the tide went out it lay with the turn of the bilge on the stump of a post or something similar, and holed. Again easily repaired (clearing up the mess from the flooding was the big job). I've happily sailed thousands of miles on ferro boats, and wouldn't rule out owning one, but I'd want to get a good understanding of how well built it was before I parted with my cash. Click to expand...

>What a load of tosh. I have a 1982 Windboat 44 ( Windboats of wroxham built oysters) She is fully comp insured by Yachtmaster Insurance with an agreed valuation,no detailed build records or core sample requested. Surveyed by Martin Evens twice. once 8 years ago when i bought her and again last year as my insurance company want a survey every 7 years, again no core sample required. She is a heavy displacement sea kindly. safe.dry blue water cruiser with a decent turn of speed. There are some very good Ferro Boat websites,one of them is http://www.ferrocement.org/ I would not buy a home built one I agree, we know a Kiwi couple who circumnavigated in a professionally built Ferro boat with no problems.  

duncan99210

The problem with ferro boats is that they were and remain something of a niche, off the main track of GRP or metal hulls. As has been said, there are some very good ones out there, well made and maintained that will represent a bargain as the prejudice against the material leads to lower selling prices than you'd expect for a similar sized yacht. The downside is that it might well be difficult to shift the boat when you come to sell. I've never owned a ferro boat but I've seen some horrors out there. I recall looking at one in Greece. At first glance, it was a lovely looking boat but if you got close to the hull and looked along it, you could see the irregularities in the surface. The hull was very thick and when we left the yard, it was still sitting there awaiting a buyer, despite being quite well priced. So what? If you can find the right boat at the right price then ferro is a good as any other material but do get a good survey and check with a few insurers that you can get the level of cover you require.  

LittleSister said: If there are not detailed records of the build you may find difficulty getting other than 3rd party insurance without cores being taken and assessed by a surveyor. Click to expand...

ferroboat said: What a load of tosh. I have a 1982 Windboat 44 ( Windboats of wroxham built oysters) She is fully comp insured by Yachtmaster Insurance with an agreed valuation,no detailed build records or core sample requested. Click to expand...

duncan99210 said: I've never owned a ferro boat but I've seen some horrors out there. I recall looking at one in Greece. At first glance, it was a lovely looking boat but if you got close to the hull and looked along it, you could see the irregularities in the surface. The hull was very thick and when we left the yard, it was still sitting there awaiting a buyer, despite being quite well priced. Click to expand...

JumbleDuck said: I suspect that "built by Windboats" is quite detailed enough. It would only be for "built in his back yard by a bloke whose plasterer mate helped out" efforts that more detail would be useful. Click to expand...

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As can be seen from this thread, there is a huge amount of prejudice against ferro so you can buy them very cheaply. In the early 70s it was the new wonder material and loads of people built boats that were far too big because they didn't appreciate that if you got a 50 ft hull for £1,000 it would cost as much to fit out as e.g. a wooden hull costing £10,000. The real horrors are the ones where the home builders thought they'd save a few hundred by plastering them themselves. I recall seeing one in a shed in the Surrey docks that was an average of 2" thick and looked like a swallow's nest. Good ones are very good and are often assumed to be GRP because of the finish. They have several big advantages, not least that they can be repaired anywhere in the world.  

There is a very good reason for the prejudice against ferro. The example I owned was pro built by a world class designer. She was a sister ship to the "floating footpath" that circumnavigated the Antarctic by Griffiths. She came complete with a pro filming documentary kit to celebrate the Australian centennial. Her name was actually centennial. Dive bottles the lot for a give away price. The n Norwegian got a bargain because I left all equipment on board. I don't know what caused the damage whether it was a direct hit or a glancing rebound but the damage was over a very large area an substantial but repairable with the right materials epoxy, cement, and mesh. I never even slept aboard because I was living on our GRP boat about a hundred yards away. The main failure as far as I am concerned is the apparant low abrasion resistance. I heard of two ferro boats that sank after being abraded y coral in benign conditions. One of them dragged gently onto a reef with no swell but the keel wore through in hours an the boat became a total loss. OK at sea though. Ie stay away from the tropics and that pesky coral.  

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