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i have been researching smaller less expensive boats that are considered bluewater boats, i have not seen the morgan 30 centerboarder. after comparing specifications such as displacement, capsize ratio, ballast weight, motion comfort, displacement to lwl, i wonder why??? it compares well or better than many boats suggested such as bristols, albergs, allieds, etc. i have always been told that the models before 73 were build stout, any opinios?????  

mitiempo

While I've never owned or been aboard one, after looking at 4 examples on Yachtworld they seem like a reasonable design for that era. Of course any boat going on 40 can have a lot of issues with maintenance, mast step, bulkheads, etc. I wouldn't pick one purely because of the longitudinal galley/dinette arrangement which I am not a fan of. But is sounds like an affordable way to get a boat for offshore use if upgraded as necessary. Rigging would probably need a redo unless done recently. Here's James Baldwin's list of good old boats with a brief description and links to owner's groups etc that might give you some other ideas. Atom Voyages | Voyages Aboard the Sailboat Atom - Good Old Boats List - choosing a small voyaging sailboat No morgans are on the list but it's full of good choices. Brian  

There's an good article on the Morgan 30 in the August '09 Practical Sailor.  

Here's the link to a site about the restoration of a Morgan 30 centreboard (1970 model). sailboat restoration, morgan 30 foot sailboat, my hole in the water Brian  

thanks for the info, i have repaired one bulkhead- chainplate attachment as well as replacing the compression post, the rest of the boat is solid and was well maintained for 35 yrs by its second owner. the only reason i ask is that i am thinking of selling it to buy something more "bluewater", however when comparing the specs i am questioning myself as to why???? it has a heavier ballast than other boats its size, better capsize ratio, better rating on motion comfort, higher hull speed, more displacement, and overall rates well for bluewater, am i missing something?????  

ross There is nothing wrong with a Morgan 30 that wouldn't be wrong with an Alberg 30 or many others. The basic boat is fine if you are pleased with it. I have owned sailboats for over 40 years and if I were you I wouldn't trade what I know for something else that could have more extensive problems. The Morgan 30 is a good sailing boat from what I know, Charlie Morgan was a good sailor and designer. The key will be condition and equipment. If the basic condition is good ( as you say it is) equipment is what you need to sail offshore successfully. That doesn't necessarily mean the latest electronics, but basic sailing gear so you can reef easily and efficiently, cook in rough weather, find your position,with accuracy (gps plus spare), anchor with confidence (30 lb plow or whatever with the appropriate chain and rope rode), in a leak free hull/deck. It sounds like what you lack is confidence and that will come with experience. Go sailing, learn to reef when it gets snotty out there and your confidence in your boat will build. A lot of sailors have cruised far and wide with lesser boats. Every day isn't a survival type of day. The trick is to be the best prepared you can be for that day, and it may never come. While I am not sure where you wish to go, watch the seasons and weather and you'll do ok. Most sailing is done in relatively good weather, but the books are better when storms and survival are paramount. Proper weather and route planning can make all the difference. Hope this helps. Brian  

Looking at this posting, and then the restoration page posted by an owner, I got thinking .. If it were me, remember now; just my opinion .. I would have painted the hull with one part paint, not worried a hoot what it looked like. I would sand and fix the cracks, chips, digs, holes on deck, and again use a one part paint .. little roll/brush/done. Move on. Then? Take care of the rigging, sails, etc. The engine? I can't say. But the work put into the cosmetics of a boat that was FREE makes not sense to me .. please remember, this is just my opinion.. I respect your thinking also. I figure, do the basics and go sailing. Somehow, I wonder, how did Joshua Slocum get all around the world without an awlgripped paint job? Maybe he just slapped on some old house paint and went sailing.  

morgan 30 in answer to rosskowh. the morgan 30 is indeed a very seaworthy vessel which sails with most cruising boats in the 40 foot range. my morgan 30 has undergo many restorations over the 40 years I have owned her. rigging and general maintainace are part of owning an older boat, that considered you can take her anywhere. good luck also look at morgan 30 my hole in the water he has gone to the extreme on resto but it should last him a long time.  

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hi i,m considering buying a morgan giles 30 and would like to hear from past or present owners , good and bad points about them and are they a difficult sail short handed. were looking to use her as a medium distance cruiser. does anyone know when they were manufactured ? thanks  

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MG 30 was described in the 1974 Sailing Boats of the World as "efficient and easy to handle". She was built at that time I recall by Somerset Plastics - built in two halves divided down the middle and then glassed together but I never heard of any failures resulting from this method. She displaced 4 tons and, if anything like the larger Morgan Giles designs, would have been a good seaboat.  

kieronriley

i own a morgan giles 30 mine has heavy weather helm but other than that a lovely boat.built by somerset plastics in 1973 we got it in 1999 and it had never been launched or even finished so we fitted it out and launched it in 2000.i do have some original publicity if i find it i,ll let you have it if you send youre addres Kieron  

ColinHuggins

Re: Morgan Giles 30 A classic Morgan Giles design from the 60's with a long production run. The original MG-built boats were best quality, some later home completions suffered. Excellent all-weather performer but slim traditional shape (my 30ft Arpege was 2ft beamier!) limited the accommodation. The only one I sailed had severe weather helm; the owner had given up and never shook out the first reef. I'd worry about that.  

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I have a Morgan giles 30 built by Somerset plastics in 1975. She is in very good order but as with any boat of this vintage i am always trying to improve.I have seen reports of weather helm and initially we did have this problem but when we installed a tiller of the correct length(it had been shortened for convenience!) and sails that balanced properly she now sails along in all but the heaviest weather with just the right weight on the tiller! She needs a force 4-5 to really get going but you need have no fear of higher winds she is as safe as houses. Unlike modern boats which are more like floating caravans she is designed as a sailing boat and accomodation is not massive but we have cruised the Solent and Channel Islands with 3 or 4 on board and been quite comfortable. I stll have the original Sabb diesel which works fine and is reliable but my wish list must include a new engine with more HP.Apart from that we love our boat and it would take a lot to tempt us away.Any questions you can email me [email protected]. <span style="color:blue"> </span>  

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Victoria 30: a small boat with big ambitions

Rachael Sprot

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The Victoria 30 is a small boat with big ambitions: a pocket cruiser that’s fun to sail and pretty to boot. Is she Queen Victoria or just a pretender to the throne? Rachael Sprot finds out...

Rowan has a cutter rig and wooden bowsprit. A sloop-rig with overlapping genoas were offered as standard. Credit: Richard Langdon

Rowan has a cutter rig and wooden bowsprit. A sloop-rig with overlapping genoas were offered as standard. Credit: Richard Langdon

Product Overview

Victoria 30.

If you can measure the success of a boat by the strength of its owners’ associations, then Victoria yachts are right up there.

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The Victoria 30 has strong offshore credentials including a GRP storm hatch which slides over the Perspex. Credit: Richard Langdon

Their devoted following spans the Atlantic, and boasts an active Facebook page that Chuck Paine, the designer himself, keeps up to date.

On this side of the pond the Victoria 34 is highly regarded. It’s the training boat of choice for the Joint Services training centre which owns 15 of them.

However, the Victoria 30s are less well known and there were only 50 or so made.

I hadn’t heard of them until I was invited to sail Rowan a few months ago by owner Bennie Mallet, but it’s the kind of boat that once introduced, you won’t forget.

The Victoria 30 is hard to pigeonhole. The most distinctive feature is the canoe stern and attractive shear-line, but she isn’t your typical, old-fashioned ‘double-ender’.

Despite the eclectic mix of 1970s and 1980s cruising boats in Torpoint Marina where I jumped aboard, Rowan still caught my eye.

I couldn’t put my finger on it, but she was just different.

Bennie told me that she had a whole suite of racing sails which she’d inherited from the previous owner.

All 16 of them were sitting in her garage at home, including multiple spinnakers! I was even more perplexed.

Canoe sterns have a significant place in the history of ocean cruising boats. From the Vikings to Sir Robin Knox-Johnston and Bernard Moitessier, many great sea voyages have been made in ‘double-enders,’ but I have to confess I associated them with Colin Archer’s heavily built Norwegian rescue ships, or the Nauticat motor-sailers.

Solid and seaworthy perhaps, but more of a survival pod than a sailing machine. Spoiler alert: I was wrong.

Aside from the canoe stern there are other features that make her stand out.

Rowan has a cutter rig, encapsulated keel , bowsprit, deep gunwales and a separate tri-sail track. There’s no messing about here, this boat means business.

There was a complex evolution behind the design. The Victoria 30 was originally built in the United States as the Leigh 30.

The Leigh in turn was based on the smaller Frances 26 which Paine had lovingly designed with his own, singlehanded sailing ambitions in mind.

Paine had fallen in love with the double-ended fishing boats he’d seen in Scotland in 1974 and promised himself that he’d try to replicate the design back home.

Thus the Frances was conceived, and it soon developed something of a cult following.

Bernie Mallet bought her Victoria 30, Rowan in 2018 with plans to sail her offshore. The retired GP mainly sails out of Plymouth with her daughter, Fiona, or her dog, Bracken. She plans to explore Biscay and circumnavigate the UK. Credit: Richard Langdon

Bernie Mallet bought her Victoria 30, Rowan in 2018 with plans to sail her offshore. The retired GP mainly sails out of Plymouth with her daughter, Fiona, or her dog, Bracken. She plans to explore Biscay and circumnavigate the UK. Credit: Richard Langdon

It was a natural progression to create a slightly bigger, family-sized version.

Small enough to be affordable, but rugged enough to withstand offshore conditions, there was one other important criterion: it needed to sail well.

So with its relatively small long-keel, substantial build quality, healthy sail area and generous ballast-ratio, the Leigh was born.

It was the editor of Yachting World at the time, Bernard Hayman, who persuaded Victoria Yachts in Southampton to bring the Leigh to the UK market.

Hayman spent many years perfecting his own small, offshore-cruiser, Barbican, and made pioneering voyages to the USSR and Norway in it.

So it seems that he and Paine shared many of the same values when it came to cruising boats: they needed to be bullet-proof, kind on the crew and a pleasure to sail.

Bennie bought Rowan in 2018 precisely for the Victoria 30’s offshore cruising credentials. She often sails it solo or with her daughter, Fiona.

A narrow coachroof creates a spacious deck. Credit: Richard Langdon

A narrow coachroof creates a spacious deck. Credit: Richard Langdon

She bought the boat in Ireland and sailed it to Plymouth, from where she cruises the English Channel.

Initially attracted to the Victoria 34s, which were slightly out of budget, she was delighted to discover their little sister and bought one straight away.

When I stepped aboard, I was immediately struck by how safe I felt. The raised coachroof is narrow with a solid teak handrail, allowing a decent side deck to move around on.

The cockpit was surprisingly spacious in port with the tiller up because it extends right out to the gunwales in the aft section, so there’s more space than you’d expect from a boat with a canoe stern.

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The aft part of the cockpit is directly enclosed by the push-pit, making it very secure. Under the cockpit seats are two large lockers, one aft and one to port.

Further forward the coachroof ends quite short of the bow and the flush foredeck has room for a well-lashed dinghy or in Rowan ’s case, solar panels .

It’s a useful space for raising the anchor or setting up warps.

The cutter rig and wooden bowsprit were options rather than the default spec, so there are also standard sloop-rigged versions available with large overlapping genoas.

I’ve always preferred the cutter rig for sailing offshore though.

In stronger winds a staysail performs much better than a half-rolled genoa, though for coastal cruising the running backstays, which are a necessary accessory to the staysail, do create an extra level of faff when tacking.

The interior is teak-heavy, and many were customised. Credit: Richard Langdon

The interior is teak-heavy, and many were customised. Credit: Richard Langdon

The hull is solid GRP with a balsa-cored deck. Under each deck-fitting the balsa core is replaced with a plywood pad adding strength where it’s needed.

The GRP was laid to Lloyds’ specification, though Paine has commented that the resulting laminate was actually less substantial than the original Leigh hulls made by Morris Yachts in Maine.

The encapsulated keel was unique to the Victorias. The American-built Leigh had a bolt on lead keel instead but it was harder to get them cast in the UK so Victoria opted to encapsulate them.

Many ocean sailors prefer encapsulated keels anyway because it’s one less thing to worry about.

The companionway has an inbuilt GRP storm hatch which slides over the Perspex one in inclement weather. It’s another testament to the kind of voyages that this boat was designed for.

Although small boats are more vulnerable to down-flooding through hatches, due to the lower freeboard, it’s a shame you don’t always see this kind of belt and braces approach on larger yachts.

Below decks there’s enough solid teak and teak veneer to give it a warm, traditional feel.

A well-balanced helm and high ballast ratio make for a rewarding sail on the Victoria 30

A well-balanced helm and high ballast ratio make for a rewarding sail. Credit: Richard Langdon

The plastic laminate head-linings are easy to clean, keep things bright and have aged well. Timber strip planking lines the areas of bare hull and is a lovely touch.

There’s also plenty of stowage behind and under the seats. I particularly liked the saloon table which drops down from the main bulkhead to reveal the wine locker.

It’s a robust defence against the accusation that small boat sailing is glorified camping. The galley to port of the companionway is compact but well-equipped.

A small wet locker adjacent means you don’t drag soggy kit through the cabin. Forward of the saloon is the heads, which takes up the full width of the boat.

It’s a decent size with a large hanging locker behind the loo. Many of the interiors were customised, so the exact layout varies slightly from boat to boat.

Sleeping accommodation on the Victoria 30

The forepeak can be made into a very snug double berth. Credit: Richard Langdon

Officially there are seven berths on Rowan . The saloon seats are decent sea-berths and one pulls out to make a small double.

There’s also a pilot berth above the port side which provides useful stowage. There’s a decent quarter berth behind the nav station and a V-berth in the forepeak with an infill to make a double, but it’s pretty cramped for two.

There’s no doubt about it, there’s much less volume below decks than a modern boat of the same length.

But there’s still 6ft headroom in the saloon and several berths over 6ft long.

She compares well with other boats of the same era and there’s an economy of space which means that every inch is well used.

Somehow there’s room for an Eberspacher , calorifier and 150 litres of fresh water – the same tankage as you’d have on a Bavaria 30, a feat worthy of Mary Poppins’ carpet bag.

The push-pit on the Victoria 30 encloses the aft part of the cockpit, making it feel very secure. Credit: Richard Langdon

The push-pit encloses the aft part of the cockpit, making it feel very secure. Credit: Richard Langdon

Under power she handled the tight turn out of Torpoint Marina well and, with the help of her substantial prop walk, turned around in almost a boat length.

Like most long-keeled boats, reverse is not her forte, but the nice thing about the canoe stern is that it’s much easier to wiggle your way backwards into a tight berth than with a broad transom.

It wasn’t until we put some canvas up that I really understood the Victoria 30’s appeal. In a blustery Plymouth Sound we hoisted the main to reef two and unfurled half the genoa.

She shot off and I’ll admit, I was a little taken aback. I’d only just recovered from the initial shock when I noticed a big gust barrelling towards us.

I braced myself for a fight on the helm but it never came, she just dug in and kept going. I was even more taken aback.

The Victoria 30 Rowan is ideal for medium-distance, short-handed sailing in challenging waters.

Rowan is ideal for medium-distance, short-handed sailing in challenging waters. Credit: Richard Langdon

There was only one word for this: fun, the kind of fun you can only have when you trust the boat implicitly.

The reason she feels so trustworthy comes down to two factors: the helm is supremely well balanced, and her high ballast ratio makes her extremely stiff.

‘I really like that you can walk away from the helm for a few minutes,’ Bennie explained later. ‘It’s easier for me to take her out on my own.’

The rudder design was something Paine put considerable thought into. Its square bottom concentrates power lower down where it’s needed.

Her AVS is also impressive: a whopping 163° – better than a Contessa 32 or a Rival 34 . She’s no slouch in light airs either.

The saloon on the Victoria 30 has a 6ft headroom

The saloon has 6ft headroom. Credit: Richard Langdon

The next day the wind had dropped to Force 3-4 and she easily hit 5 knots close-reaching with her fully battened main, staysail and genoa.

She pushed up towards 6 knots when we bore away to 110° apparent and if she’d had a clean bottom would have done more.

The wind instruments weren’t working, but we tacked through less than 90° without any effort at all.

In the lulls, her weight gave her enough oomph to power through the chop without stalling.

Though her keel is long, it’s not too long: the cut away forefoot means there’s less wetted surface area than there might be.

The Victoria 30 hold their value well, making them a good investment.

The Victoria 30 hold their value well, making them a good investment. Credit: Richard Langdon

I could see why the previous owners had invested in such an extensive sail wardrobe and raced her; the Victoria 30 is rewarding to sail.

That said, the cockpit is pretty tight for a racing crew: two’s company and three’s a crowd. The tiller takes up much of the space when down, so the wheel version would be better if sailing with friends and family.

These boats have generally aged well and hold their value. The usual things will wear out: teak decks and toe rails, and interior woodwork if it’s not looked after.

The sprit on Rowan was rotten on the inboard end, and Bennie has put big stainless backing plates underneath all the deck fittings after the bolts for the main halyard block ripped up through the deck.

It’s not a bad defects list for a boat that’s needed little maintenance in 40 years. I began to wonder what kind of voyages I’d do if I owned a Victoria 30.

The chart table is just by the companionway steps. Credit: Richard Langdon

The chart table is just by the companionway steps. Credit: Richard Langdon

She’s ideal for medium-distance, shorthanded sailing in challenging waters.

She’s a boat in which you can be self-sufficient and that will handle heavy weather well.

Her modest draught means you can get off the beaten track and if you ground her on an uncharted rock, with her long, encapsulated keel you’ve got a good chance of coming away unscathed.

I came back to her Viking heritage – she’d be perfect for a summer cruise around the Northern Isles, the Faroes and Iceland.

It’s the go-anywhere attitude that I like most about the Victoria 30. How many boats of this size have a separate tri-sail track? How many boats of any size have a tri-sail track?

The Victoria 30's The compact galley is well set up for a short-handed crew.

The compact galley is well set up for a short-handed crew. Credit: Richard Langdon

She’s the kind of boat where some of your daydreams can become a reality. The canoe stern was still troubling me though on what is otherwise a practical boat.

I’d heard the assertion that it ‘parts the waves’ in heavy weather but I was sceptical – Paine may be a legendary naval architect, but he’s not Moses.

I asked him what purpose it served. ‘I do not believe there is any practical advantage. Sailing is a pastime that is all about quality of life. There is nothing practical about using the wind to propel a boat at five knots [but]… there are some folks who just like the look of this shape, and if it only does a little harm, they will still love it.’

As you’ve probably guessed by now, I couldn’t agree more.

Expert opinion of the Victoria 30

Nick Vass B.Sc B.Ed HND FRINA MCMS DipMarSur YS, Marine Surveyor www.omega-yachtservices.co.uk

The Victoria 30 is a long-keel, canoe-stern yacht introduced in 1982, designed by American Chuck Paine, on the same lines as the flush-decked Francis 26 and the coach-roofed Victoria 26, which were based on his older American made Morris 26 and Morris Leigh 30 designs.

The Victoria 30 has a long keel moulded into the hull with encapsulated ballast. It is likely that the ballast is lead shot.

Encapsulated ballast has the advantage of not requiring keel bolts that can work loose and the keel won’t need to be re-bedded.

Lead has value and can be sold to pay for the responsible disposal of the yacht when it comes to the end of its working life.

Watch out for the plethora of teak on the decks of Victoria 30s as this can be expensive to replace when worn out or decayed.

A woman in red salopettes down below on a Victoria 30

Bernie bought Rowen to sail offshore. Credit: Richard Langdon

Most were fitted with Yanmar 2GM20 16-hp engines which were reliable and common.

The double-ender stern pinches the cockpit and makes access to the stern gland, gearbox and rudder post gland problematic, so make sure that these components have not been neglected.

The lack of transom makes fitting an emergency boarding ladder tricky as the banana shape means the very aft end is high out of the water.

Make sure you have a boarding ladder ready for emergencies such as a roll-up rope ladder Velcroed to the guardrail which can be grabbed and deployed from the water.

I have found leaking chainplates on Victoria 30s. Leaks can damage the elaborate hardwood interior joinery.

Ben Sutcliffe-Davies, Marine Surveyor and full member of the Yacht Brokers Designers & Surveyors Association (YDSA)

www.bensutcliffemarine.co.uk

Generally, the Victoria 30 was pretty well built, but having surveyed several over the last decade, there are a few issues to look out for which are rectifiable but costly.

I should also note that these issues haven’t been found on every Victoria 30 I have surveyed! Boats which were fitted with teak decks are now 35-plus years old and need careful inspection.

I’ve seen many with water ingress through the caulking which has become trapped under the timber decks and got into the balsa deck core, causing softening.

The keel is encapsulated and reported as lead. Generally there will be a lean mix of sand and cement to act as a packer around where the lead is laid into the keel void.

Only around 50 Victoria 30's were built in the UK

Only around 50 Victoria 30’s were built in the UK. Credit: Richard Langdon

I have seen some where, following a grounding, water has got inside affecting this lean mix. It is fixable over time in a warm workshop. The rudder is keel hung.

I have seen very high moisture in this shoe support area and several boats needed work to dry the area of laminate and address this problem.

I’ve surveyed one Victoria 30 where the bonding failed on the hull to deck arrangement near the chainplates and required work.

Several had genoa tracks which leaked through the side decks. Internally, be aware of the chain locker and drain, which is accessed from within the forepeak.

I have had a few where the plywood was quite soft at the base of the locker. Check the deck collar of the keel-stepped mast as water can inevitably get in.

Alternatives to the Victoria 30 to consider

Morgan giles 30.

Many Morgan Giles 30s were home finished by owners, so layouts vary. Credit: David Harding

Many Morgan Giles 30s were home finished by owners, so layouts vary. Credit: David Harding

The Morgan Giles 30 came from the chief designer at Morgan Giles yachts, Kenneth Collyer, and was initially designed for his personal use.

Francis Morgan Giles, who was still alive at the time, is reported to have said that ‘God made man so he could float on a piece of wood’.

So, the first boat was built out of timber but with the inevitable transition to GRP , it was used as plug for the moulds.

First built in Teignmouth, when the Morgan Giles yard closed in 1969 Somerset Plastics bought the moulds.

It produced 70 hulls between 1969 and 1996. The lines are gorgeous, with a gentle sheer and classy counter stern.

The MG30 has good seakeeping abilities and handles heavy weather well.

70 Morgan Giles 30s were built between 1969-1996.

70 Morgan Giles 30s were built between 1969-1996. Credit: David Harding

Proportionally she’s got quite a bit less sail area than the Victoria 30 but they have many similar qualities, including an encapsulated long keel and efficient, square-bottomed rudder.

First specced with 1.6T of lead ballast, most of them actually have 1.8T of cast iron instead.

The original layout is quite unusual, with the galley taking up the full port side of the saloon and a table and short bench seat opposite.

There are two quarter berths either side of the cockpit, a heads across the full width of the boat forwards of the mast and V berth forwards.

Nearly all of the MG30s were home-finished, so there are quite a few layout variations and the usual pitfalls for the enthusiastic amateur to watch out for.

They don’t tend to come up for sale very often due to the limited production run and because faithful owners tend to keep hold of them.

Owing to their age some of them are quite neglected when they come to market, and even the well-maintained ones will need investment as things like chain plates get to the age where they require pulling.

A thorough survey is essential. But, they don’t make ‘em like this any more, the lines are lovely so it’s worth snapping up a well-maintained one, or taking the trouble to restore one.

Halmatic 30

The Helmatic 30 came with a long cast iron bolt-on keel. Credit: Boy Aylott

The Helmatic 30 came with a long cast iron bolt-on keel. Credit: Boy Aylott

Halmatic has a reputation for building solid, no-nonsense boats. It produced the hulls of lifeboats, work boats and Royal Navy Patrol boats.

But between the bulky grey bruisers a lot of very attractive yachts emerged from the company’s sheds at Portsmouth harbour.

The Halmatic 30 is one of them, as are most of the Camper and Nicholson designs.

The Halmatic 30 is the younger sibling to the Nicholson 32 and was designed to open up the offshore cruising market to those on a smaller budget.

Like many of these classic hull designs, it had a further evolution too and became the Barbican 30.

The long cast-iron keel makes her sea- kindly, though unlike the Victoria and the Morgan Giles 30, it is bolt-on rather than encapsulated.

The transom-hung rudder extends the wetted surface area, but there’s enough sail area to make up for it.

The interior fit out is more basic than the Victoria’s and they command a lower price as a result.

Unusually for a boat of this size and era, there are no quarter berths. Instead, the coachroof comes well aft, giving a generous saloon with 6ft headroom throughout.

Although this results in a small cockpit, the upside of the lack of quarter berths is two generous cockpit lockers.

Everything on a boat of this size is a compromise, and in our infinitely varied British climate, prioritising space below decks, rather than above it, might be a good compromise to make.

Frequently described as a ‘go-anywhere’ boat, the Halmatic 30 is still achieving its original mission: to prove that you don’t have to spend a fortune to get your hands on a serious offshore cruiser.

Elizabethan 30

A larger sail area means good sail performance in light airs on the Elizabethan 30

A larger sail area means good sail performance in light airs. Credit: David Harding

The only fin keeler in this selection, it seemed a shame to miss out this little gem.

Designed by David Thomas, the Elizabethan was originally designed as a RORC half-tonner so they’re a performance yacht with cruising capabilities, rather than the other way around.

David Thomas created some of the most successful cruiser-racers of the last 50 years including the Sigma 33 and 38, and British Steel Challenge 67s.

Like many of his other designs, the Elizabethan is robustly built and extremely seaworthy.

The layout below works well for cruising, though some boats were home finished with varying degrees of success.

The two full-length saloon berths make clever use of trotter boxes so as not to reduce the space in the galley or nav station; there’s a quarter berth to starboard and the usual V-berth forwards.

The cockpit is a good size with useful lockers, although to go up and down the companionway you’ll need to clamber straight across the traveller, which sits just outside the hatch.

There’s an active owners’ association which would be a good source of knowledge for those new to the boat or undertaking refits.

At almost 20% lighter than the Victoria 30 and sporting a larger sail area, they’ll be good in light airs and a whippet around the cans.

The real proof of the pudding is that Thomas kept one for himself and even came second in the Round the Island Race on her.

A versatile cruiser-racer which is often compared to the Contessa 32, but can be yours for a much lower price tag.

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MORGAN 30-2 Detailed Review

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If you are a boat enthusiast looking to get more information on specs, built, make, etc. of different boats, then here is a complete review of MORGAN 30-2. Built by Morgan Yachts and designed by Charles Morgan, the boat was first built in 1972. It has a hull type of Fin with rudder on skeg and LOA is 8.96. Its sail area/displacement ratio 17.40. Its auxiliary power tank, manufactured by Universal, runs on Gas.

MORGAN 30-2 has retained its value as a result of superior building, a solid reputation, and a devoted owner base. Read on to find out more about MORGAN 30-2 and decide if it is a fit for your boating needs.

Boat Information

Boat specifications, sail boat calculation, rig and sail specs, auxillary power tank, accomodations, contributions, who designed the morgan 30-2.

MORGAN 30-2 was designed by Charles Morgan.

Who builds MORGAN 30-2?

MORGAN 30-2 is built by Morgan Yachts.

When was MORGAN 30-2 first built?

MORGAN 30-2 was first built in 1972.

How long is MORGAN 30-2?

MORGAN 30-2 is 8.38 m in length.

What is mast height on MORGAN 30-2?

MORGAN 30-2 has a mast height of 11.58 m.

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Morgan 41 – Used Boat Test:

A great upgrade candidate for any handy and determined sailor, the morgan 41 is a well-designed, cross-purpose boat with the face of a classic, the heart of a racer, and the body of a cruiser..

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The Morgan 41 sloop is arguably one of the best looking of many lovely dual-purpose sailboats that the Cruising Club of America handicap rating system engendered. One owner described his boat as a Bermuda 40 for a regular Joe, only prettier. Designer Charley Morgan traces the cruiser-racers heritage, particularly below the waterline, back to Olin Stephens famous Finisterre, and Comanche, a 40-foot centerboarder built by Wirth Munroe, son of famed sharpie designer and South Florida pioneer Commodore Ralph Munroe.

In 1966, long before Charley Morgans well-known Out Island 41 took the Caribbean charterboat scene by storm, the “other” Morgan 41 emerged from then-nascent Morgan Yachts in St. Petersburg, Fla. Not yet 37 years old, Morgan was well on his way to becoming one of the most recognizable names in fiberglass boat design. The cruiser/racer Morgan 41 embodied many aspects of two of Morgans most successful custom designs at that time, Paper Tiger, which won back-to-back Southern Ocean Racing Conference races in 1960 and 1961, and Sabre, which went on to become the Columbia 40.

Morgan 41 Sailboat

The Morgan 41 Circe III enjoys a reach across Biscayne Bay. (photo by Billy Black).

Morgan traces the designs heritage, particularly below the waterline, back even further, to Olin Stephens famous Finisterre, and Comanche, a 40-foot centerboarder built by Wirth Munroe, son of famed sharpie designer and South Florida pioneer “Commodore” Ralph Munroe. “I had sailed on a sistership to , so I knew what it could do, and I had crossed the Gulf Stream on,” recalls Morgan, who confides that his own susceptibility to seasickness was a driving force behind his designs. “I was so impressed with the stability and seakeeping ability of that boat that I knew this was the right direction to go with a cruiser/racer. Finisterre had a pie-shaped centerboard that came up into the cabin, but Wirth had it right with his jacknife centerboard. It was more efficient, and angled back so you could adjust the helm as needed.

“It didn’t matter if it was blowing 7 knots or 18 knots, you could leave the helm, go get a cold drink below, come back, and find the boat just as youd left her.”

The Morgan 41 is arguably one of the best looking of many lovely cross-purpose boats that the Cruising Club of America handicap rating system engendered. One owner described his boat as “a Bermuda 40 for a regular Joe, only prettier.” Morgan, who strove hard to erase sailings elitist reputation, would no doubt be pleased by the analogy.

Although Morgan was already launching boats with detached rudders and skegs (in the Morgan 24), the Morgan 41s rudder is attached to a long keel a sensible approach for Morgans home waters of Southwest Florida. Its keel gently emerges from the curve of the stem, reaching its maximum depth of 4 feet, 2 inches just forward the well-protected rudder.

The centerboard extends another 5 feet, 3 inches, giving the boat a maximum draft of nearly 9.5 feet.Most owners said they seldom used the board, unless they wanted more stability in a cross sea, or to “spank some hotshot” to windward.

“I’m a big believer in shoal-draft boats,” says Morgan. “Not only does it open up more areas to cruising, its very important for seeking shelter or reaching hurricane holes.”

Based on a design Morgan had previously tank tested, the 41’s hull has modest overhangs at the ends, adequate deadrise at the bow, and a broad bilge but no long, flat sections, as is common today. The 30 feet of waterline quickly increases as the boat assumes sailing trim. Its well-proportioned, 11-foot, 3-inch beam was considered broad in its time.

All of the boats 9,000 pounds of ballast is in the fixed keel, so that even with the centerboard up, the 41 is a very stable boat. The board lifts by a cable and sheaves, a design that would be the bane for future owners. (See “Construction Details,” page 12.)

The rig is typical of the era, with an overlapping genoa providing much of the sail area. (A 150-percent genoa is the standard headsail in South Florida.) Despite fairly conservative design ratios, the 41 is not lacking for horsepower. A couple of owners reported they had mainsails that were actually cut shorter than the original and were quite content with performance.

Deck Details

A survey of the deck reveals a long, I-shaped cockpit, wide sidedecks, and an uncluttered foredeck. The cockpit suits sailing with guests or sleeping under the stars, but will keep your feet wet in a steep following sea. Several owners said they have enlarged the cockpit drains.

On the boat we sailed, the binnacle and 27-inch standard destroyer wheel were so far aft that it was a tight squeeze at the helm. In fair weather, the favored helm spot is on the leeward rail, where the view is intoxicating. During tight maneuvers under power, the shin-high throttle controls give the skipper the unflattering appearance of a farm hen, hunting and pecking as he shifts.

The standard running rigging provides a good framework for improvement. Leading to a traveler just aft of the helm, the mainsheet is at the end of an antiquated roller-furling boom whose popularity, though short-lived, we are still at a loss to explain. A simple slab reefing system suffices.

The jib sheets lead aft to primary and secondary winches mounted on winch pads at the coamings, making winch upgrade a relatively simple affair. Race-ready boats have two genoa tracks, one on the rail and an optional inboard track.

There is a hawsepipe leading to the anchor locker (also accessible from below), but most boats were not originally equipped with a bow roller. Most owners have managed with some off-the-shelf varieties.

Accommodations

Although there were other optional layouts to the “stick-built” interior, most boats followed the plan on page 12. Aft to port is a quarter-berth/nav station, with the galley to starboard. In the main saloon, which has 6 feet, 4 inches of headroom, theres a U-shaped settee to port that converts to a double berth. Facing that is a settee/sea berth, with a pilot berth, above.

Moving forward, you’ll find a separate head to port across from a very large hanging locker, which one owner neatly converted into storage and a small workbench. The V-berth is about 6 feet, 11 inches long and well-ventilated through a large forward hatch. Another hatch opens in the main saloon. Three small ports (one of them opening) and one large, fixed port allow light below. Most owners convert the small saloon deadlights to opening ports, and many have painted or covered over the standard walnut mica finish to lighten the interior.

The galley is lacking by todays standards, with a sink below the companionway and little useable counterspace for meal-making underway. A pressure alcohol stove was standard, so a conversion to propane requires finding, or making, a safe place to store the fuel. The standard icebox is big enough to allow for additional insulation and a new inside liner.

Performance

The boats tight propeller aperture limits prop size, so a three-bladed prop is usual. Many boats came with a 30-horsepower Atomic 4 gas engine. Westerbeke 55As and Perkins 4-108s (our test boat had the Perkins) are common today. Under power, the boat cooperates in both forward and reverse, though some owners like to drop the board a bit for better control in tight corners or in a crosswind.

Morgan 41 Sailboat

We sailed the boat in 12-15 knots on Biscayne Bay in Miami, Fla. Seas were a light chop. Winds gusted higher in two squalls that rolled through. The boat was equipped with a fairly new, 150 genoa on roller furling, but an aging mainsail handicapped windward performance. Even so, we easily tacked through 90 degrees with the board partially down and exceeded 7 knots while reaching, always with fingertip control. Indeed, impeccable balance is the boats hallmark.

The boat clearly hits its stride about 65 degrees off the true wind, and owners regularly speak of making double-digit speeds while reaching during long ocean races. We sailed most of the time with the board about three-quarters of the way down, and the only time we could truly notice its effect was going to windward, when it reduced the amount of leeway. The overlapping headsail makes short-tacking a pain, but the boat is surprisingly nimble when tacking in light air.

The Morgan 41 is a good upgrade candidate for someone who is handy and determined. The boats are typically well-loved, much of the essential work has usually been done (replacing gate valves with proper seacocks, for example). They are proven offshore cruisers, but key spots need careful attention.

Any boat with the original centerboard system will need revamping. To bring the boat into the 21st century, much of the gear belowdecks and above decks will need upgrading or replacement.

A well-restored Morgan 41 can shine next to some of the most highly regarded classics on the waterfront, so their owners are typically loathe to part with them. If one does land on the market, expect to pay anywhere from $30,000-$60,000 or more, depending on the condition. Should you decide to part with it down the road, you should not have a hard time finding a buyer.

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We have a 1968 morgan 41. Do you know the prop size and pitch on your morgan??

Hi Chris, We have a 1968 Morgan M41 as well. I am not sure the pitch but our prop is a 15” LH. We have the Westerbeke 4107 engine. Where are you located? We are in St Pete.

Chris, We also have a 1968 Morgan 41. We recently repowered with a Yanmar (had a Perkins 4107). Located in Long Island NY. I believe ours is a 16” Prop.

I, too, have a 1968 Morgan 41, Banshee, on Long Island Sound. I keep her in Port Washington. I have a Westerbeke 4.108 rated at 37 hp. I have 15 1/2 – 12 prop. I feel I’m under-propped. I would like to re-prop with a 16” or 17” to expose more blade beyond the deadwood.

Agree a larger prop would be helpful, esp in a head sea. You might try a 16″ but the aperture is only approx 17″ so limits the prop dia. You could try a 16″ adjustable one to maximize your pitch, I’ve been thinking of this myself.

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Morgan Out Island 30

Morgan Out Island 30 is a 29 ′ 9 ″ / 9.1 m monohull sailboat designed by Charles Morgan and built by Morgan Yachts starting in 1977.

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Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

  • SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
  • D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

  • D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
  • LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

  • D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
  • LOA: Length overall in feet
  • Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

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