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The Allmand Sail 31

This 1970's era cruiser is beloved for its roomy, tri-cabin interior, but it does not sail close to the wind and the shoal keel makes excessive leeway..

During the hey day of fiberglass sailboat production in the 1970s, there were seemingly more small builders than today. Alas, the industry recession of the mid-and late 1980s wiped them out. But the boats they build still exist. One of interest is the Allmand 31, built by Allmand Boats, Inc. of Hialeah, Florida. The company also sold the Allmand 23 and Allmand 35.

Allmand was foremost a builder of power boats, dating to at least 1965. Most were inboard-powered between 28 and 34 feet, though they also built smaller open and cuddy cabin boats for outboards and sterndrives. Like a handful of other powerboat builders, the energy crunch of the 1970s and the “greening of America” prompted Allmand to try its hand at sailboats. And like those other builders, the result of its efforts was a somewhat unorthodox looking boat. The Allmand 31 isn’t as misshapen as Bayliner’s Buccaneers, but it’s not what you would call a classic. The super graphic letter “A” (for Allmand) on the aft topsides didn’t seem to integrate well with the rest of the boat, but fortunately that was later discontinued.

The Allmand 31 first appears in the BUC Research Used Boat Price Guide in 1979, the same year it was featured in SAIL magazine’s annual directory. Production ceased about 1985, according to BUC Research, the same year it went out of business. Curiously, BUC shows that Allmand built only sailboats the last several years of its existence.

An old brochure lists Walter Scott and T.R. Allmand as the designers of the 31. The design is quite conservative in most respects, though a notable exception is its wide 11′ 4″ beam and long 27′ 8″ waterline, which account for the generous room below. Most owners surveyed indicated its interior spaciousness as the principal reason they bought the Allmand 31.

The hull has a conventional vertical transom that looks larger than it really is due to the tan cockpit coaming across the stern. The bow has a pleasing rake to it with a slight concave curve which suggests the inten­ tions of a clipper bow that was wisely left on the drawing room floor. The sheer is fairly flat and contemporary.

The coach roof has a small step in it for added headroom (6′ 4″) in the main cabin. This dates the design somewhat, though it can be a hand­ some detail. One disadvantage, how­ ever, is the problem of leading lines such as halyards from the base of the mast aft to the cockpit.

The combination of two overhead hatches, large fixed portlights and smaller opening portlights, of which seven were standard, provide good ventilation and light. As an option, one could pay for additional opening portlights-up to 11 in all.

Underwater, the Allmand 31 has a long, shoal cruising fin and rudder mounted on a partial skeg. The shoal ?keel draws just 3′ 10″, which makes the boat well suited to Florida Bay and Bahamas cruising, for which, one may presume, she was intended. While the problems associated with centerboards are eliminated, banging of the board in the trunk, broken pennant, barnacles obstructing the trunk, etc.) there is a definite tradeoff in terms of upwind sailing performance.

The Allmand 31 displaces 11,100 lbs. or l2,850 lbs. depending on which brochure you believe, giving it a displacement/length (D/L) ratio of 230 or 259. (The brochure indicating the heavier displacement also lists length waterline or LWL as 27′ 11″ and draft as 4′ 0”.)

Two sail areas are listen in one brochure—471 sq. ft. for the “Cruising Model” and 485 sq. ft. for the “Racing/Cruising Model.” The extra 14 sq. ft. came from having a 2′ taller mast. Lead instead of iron ballast was used for the Racing/Cruising Model, which should make it stiffer. The sail area/displacement (SA/D) ratios for the two are 15.2 and 15.6, somewhat low numbers. The shoal keel precludes a large rig that might jeopardize stability.

Speaking of stability, the boat derives much of its form stability from its wide beam. Excessive heeling, which could happen with a taller rig, would probably result in poor handling characteristics.

In any case, these relatively low SA/D ratios suggest a fairly slow boat, a conclusion supported by the boat’s owners.

Construction

Our files do not tell a great deal about how the boat was constructed, so we will assume that the hull is solid fiberglass and the deck cored with balsa. A full-length fiberglass pan was molded to incorporate the cabin sole and berths, then, while the hull was still in the mold, “resin bonded and fiberglassed into the hull.” Teak-faced plywood covers up most traces of the pan. It does not appear that an overhead liner was used in the main cabin; rather the raw fiberglass was spray painted. This never looks particularly smooth, but a real benefit of not using an overhead liner is that the bulkheads may be tabbed with fiberglass to the underside of the deck.

The hull deck joint is strong and should be leakproof. Resin was laid into the joint before lowering the deck onto the hull, then stainless fasteners (one suspects screws) were drilled in, and then the entire inside of the joint fiberglassed over. It would require a Sawz-all to cut the deck off the hull. Hopefully, such radical surgery will never be necessary!

As noted above, ballast was either iron or lead, the latter being preferable in terms of its specific gravity and resistance to corrosion. It can be difficult keeping paint on an iron keel. One should expect to have to take it down to bare metal every so many years, clean, prime and repaint.

Upper and double lower shrouds are led to 1-1/2″ wide by 1/4″ thick stainless steel chainplates that pass through the deck (right next to the cabin trunk) and are anchored to structural members behind the settees. As such, they are exposed inside, which isn’t all bad, as stainless survives longest when exposed to the air. The downside is that one might occasionally find them in the way when stowing things on the shelves behind the set­ tees. On deck, there are raised bosses where the chainplates enter the deck, and these should help keep water out.

The mast is stepped on deck. A stainless steel compression post sits on the ballast. The owner of a 1981 model, who was dismasted due to what he said was a faulty Merriman turnbuckle, recommended “beefing up the mast step and compression post top.” He also suggested heavier standing rigging, but admitted it was “only because of our mishap.”

Underwater through-hulls are fitted with bronze sea cocks, which are part of an electrical grounding system, along with the rudderstock and drive shaft.

We received no reports of hull blishters, though a few owners noted gelcoat flaws on deck.

Early boats, had contrasting non-skid colors, such as blue, on the otherwise white deck. Later, a beige color was available for the entire deck, that to our eye at least, looks better.

Early 31s have the so-called tri-cabin layout, with a 6 4 V-berth forward, 6 U-shaped settee-dinette and single settee amidships, and an aft cabin on the prt side, which is enclosed by a door and features a hungingin locker. The berth measures 6 6 x 4 6. The builder thougthlfuylly made a fold-away top to the bulkhead at the forward end of the aft cabin that provides ventilation nd keeps the cabin from imparting claustrophobia. Close it when youre cold and want to cuddle; otherwise wed leave it open, if for no other reason tan to help prvent mildew.

A limited number of Allmand Sail 31/II models were built without the aft cabin enclosure. The brochure states, the basic difference is that the main cabin is wide open. Many bulkheads and doors have been eliminated. It is a boat designed for a young couple or small family. Teak trim is minimal (and so is maintenance). Tiller steering is standard. Price of the 31/II was dropped about $5,000.

The galley is to starboard of the companionway ladder. It is not large, but includes the basics – sink, gimbaled stoae, 8-cubi-foot icebook, pressure water and storage compartments outboartd and behind the sink.

There is no nav station, so chart work will take place on the dinette table, wihich folds out to seat up to seven.

As Allmand 31 owners know, there is a lot of room below. Berths for seven is unusual in a boat this size, but the Allmand does it without appearing to have crammed them in.

Performance

The PHRF ratings for the Allmand 31, in fleets around the country, rnage from 168 to 210, with an average of 192. This puts it on a part with the full-keel Allied Seabreeze 35, faster than the Alberg 30 and Bayfield 30 at 222, and much slower than a Beneteau 305 at about 150. But then max speed isn’t what this boatr is about.

Nevertheleadd, owners report that off the wind she does quite well, owing in part to its long waterline. One woner recommends using a MPS (multi-purpose spinnaker) for improved performance.

Upwind is another matter. Shoal draft and wide beam hurts upwind performance, especially in choppy water, said the owner os a 1979 model on the Alabam Gulf Coast.

A strong suit of the 31 is its tremendous form stability. Cannot get gunwale under, said more than one woner. Shell heel only so far and then stop. Just one owner said hed ever had the rail under, and that in 30 knots of sind and rough seas. Most said theyd tried but couldnt.

Handling, too, is extolled by owners. Balanced easily, light weather helm, said the owners of a 1980 model in Indiana.

The most common auxiliary was a 16-hp. M20 Universal diesel. Owners rate its reliability as above average and accessibility as average to below average. (So what else is new on a sailboat?) A few owenrs with 21-hp. Ecati engines complained about parts availability. An owner of a Renault 16D said his engine has benn very reliable.

One owner said his creusing speed is 5+ knots, but the theoretical hull speed I aoubt 7 knots… if you can find the power to push the load. Sixteen horses for six tons isn’t a lot.

Maneuverability under power is good. Lilke a lot of boats, however, getting the boat to go where you want in reverse takes some practice. One owner said h can drive a slalom course in reverse, but no one else agreed with him.

We were somewhat surpised, and impressed by the number of people living aboard the Allmand 31. For her size, she certainly does offer much space below and in the cockpit (one owner said shell easily sit six or seven in the T-shaped cockpit).

The wide beam gives her a good deal of initial stability, though this is not the kind of hull form that you want to capsize as inverse stability will be greater than on a narrower boat (and one with a deeper keel). Still, level sailing is always appreciated. And the long waterline helps deliver speed in wont of a bigger rig. Some say the 31 will tack through 84 true, others as much as 90 or 100. Either way, this is probably acceptable to many when the tradeoff is a comfy crusiing boat.

Owners rate construction as above average.

According to the BUC Research Used Boat Price Guide, used Allman Sail 31 prices range from about $20,000 to $25,000. We checked Soudnings for additional listings and found two Allmand 31s for sale, a 1983 for $19,900, with the 16-hp. Universla diesel, and another of unspecified vintage for $29,500.

For comparison, the same column of boats included a 1985 Island Packet 31 for $59,500, several 1979 Bombay Clippers between $22,000 and $28,900, a 1983 Cal 31 for $33,900 and a 1986 Hunter 31 for $33,500.

We wont say that the Allmand is better built than these other 31-footers, but it is certainly not the worst either.

It is safe to say that if bought in the low $20s, the Allamnd 31 would represent a good value. When looking for explanations for its low price, one is tempted to blame the stigma of a sailboat built by a powerboat company, that real sailors wouldnt consider such a boat. While we have serious reservations about some sailboats by powerboat companies, the Allmand 31 doesn’t appear to deserve that rap. Just ask one of her many owners.

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I have a little problem with a 1982 31ft Allmand I just purchased. Put in a new cutlass last week and noticed the shaft is not centered in the throughhull. The service yard said the engine mounts need to be replaced or adjusted. I see no way of getting to that area. Any suggestions. By the way, the .engine is a refit jammed in pretty tight.

Congratulations Christopher on your Allmand. I bought mine 3 years ago. Its a 1981 31ft tri cabin. I replaced the top rudder shelf, and a few more bits and bobs but cant help you with your cutlass. Im sure the forums will have something.. Happy sailing! sherry

My first boat as a retiree was a 1984 Allmand 31. Loved it. My wife could push and pull it around docks and pylons. of course, I needed another 3-4 feet (don’t we all) so I now have a 35′ Catalina. I still miss my Allmand.

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1981 Allmand 31

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This Allmand 31 is built to sail. This Allmand 31 was built by builders known for their performance and sea-worthy vessels. These hulls were made for sailing in shoals and deep water depending on the adventure you seek!

The Allmand 31 has a very wide beam of 11’ 4” that makes the interior more spacious and features a 6’ 4” headroom that also makes the boat more appealing for most sailors.

The mast is stepped on deck and has a stainless steel compression post that sits on the ballast.

All the through-hulls and seacocks are bronze and part of the grounding system along with the rudder and drive shaft.

VHF Radio and Nw hand held VHS radio New Garmin depth finder with charts (velcro mounted to cockpit dining table) 2500watt Cobra Invertor E-Pirb Autohelm 5000 WP- autopilot needs to be remounted Bonding wires connect for electrolysis protection connected to all through hulls and stuffing box 1 bilge pump wired to batteries, 1 auxilary 500gal/minute bilge pump w/switch at panel, whale hand operated pump, 2 hand held manual bilge pump Lots of new marine 12 gauge electronic wiring interior with 110 outlets, electronic repair parts, multi meter, light bulbs, etc.

SHIP SYSTEMS 2-20lb propane tanks in vented locker Par head & holding tank 2Y-valves for overboard or pump out deck fitting (new 2000) Engine Raw water system cleaned and rebuilt New Hot & Cold pressure PEX water system, New water pump, On demand heater for shower New Jabsco hand pump for toilet Rebuilt double macerator black water system with holding tank, odor filter (no smells, hardly used) New par pump for head floor drain - switch at panel DECK & RIGGING 40lb Plow………… w/200’ Chain/rope rode 30lb Danforth anchor w/75 Chain/rope rode 20lb Plow stern anchor 150 rope rode Dock lines and Fenders, 100’s of feet extra lines Deck-stepped rig single spreader Boom Vang, All new Internal Lines mast & Boom Roller Furling on head stay 2 Mainsheets, 1 Jib 4 Halyard & Furling Winches with clutches refurbished and lubed Temporary Plastic dodger and bimini Lots of extra sail rigging MISC. 5 offshore life jackets, Engine spares box w/ belts, filters, impellers etc, Flairs, 2 spot lights Bosons chair, Mast Steps, 2 Fire extinguishers, Cockpit cushions, 1 Solar vents main and twin cabin-not functioning, Transom Outboard Motor Bracket, Transom boarding ladder, Binoculars, 1 aluminum & 1 chrome winch handles, extra prop, Katadyne Survivor 35 hand pump Water maker, All teak refinished, many ceiling panels replaced, new vinyl wall panels, Inflatable dunnel bags to prevent sinking, Ditch bag, Hull Painted Summer 2020, Dive gear, Deck wood treated with Sikkens Cetol. 3 Hatches refitted, stainless burglar proof bolt on hath panels, Swinging companionway doors, and reinforced sliding door All the above equipment is included in sale, Seller invested $20,000. in parts and labor over the last

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Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

• SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
• D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
• LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
• LOA: Length overall in feet
• Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

First introduced as the SAIL 31. A similar model was advertised as the ALLMAND 312 (same hull and deck) with some differences in the interior layout. Tall rig: I: 43.0’/13.11m J: 12.0’/3.66m P: 36.3’/11.06m E: 12.5’/3.81m Dimensions from orig. builder literature.

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1981 Allmand 31 If you’re in the mood for a great starter sailboat…or want a fully equipped inexpensive sailboat, come have a look.  This one features Atomic 4 Diesel, roller furling genoa, Dodger and Bimini, fully equipped galley.  This boat has had good care and maintenance.  The owners of 20 years have moved up and their Allmand is available.

2015 Allmand 31and 29 Water Taxi

2015 Allmand 31and 29 Water Taxi   Free Global Shipping IncludedIn the USA shipping is free when purchasing the hull only.Shipping is always included for orders outside the USA with or without engines.For turn key orders with engines in the continental USA, shipping averages $1.75 per mile or less from Cincinnati, Ohio. The 31 foot and 29 foot water taxi boats are available as either a half cabin or full cabin design. Very roomy at 8 feet 4 inches wide, the inside has room for 20 or more passengers and their luggage or cargo. The small passenger boats can be set up with outboards or inboard engines. The models are very popular in Nigeria water traffic and other West African territories where river crossings are a challenge. Also in St Maarten and St Kitts these passenger water taxis are perfect for tour boats. In Mauritius our boats our passenger boats and water taxi boats are used to transport guests from island to the shore. In Spanish Wells, Eleuthra Bahamas our passenger boats are used by resorts for water shuttle of personnel and hotel workers from one hotel resort Island to another hotel resort Island.  non coastguard certified

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