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building a pocket trawler from an S2 8.0 C

Discussion in ' Boat Design ' started by popeyejackusn , Jun 3, 2019 .

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I've just purchased an S2 26 ft center cockpit sailboat. I believe I can make a trawler from it. It is full displacement, 30 inch draft, with a Yanmar diesel. It weighs 5,000 lbs and is trailerable. I just wonder if anyone has heard of anyone building one from that same boat design.

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I am guessing that yours is the 8.0 C model, as per the link below? SailboatData.com - S2 8.0 C Sailboat https://sailboatdata.com/sailboat/s2-80-c Re 'making a trawler from it', what is your proposed plan? Are you thinking of building a wheelhouse over the cockpit area? Does it still have a sailing rig? Are you going to keep the Yanmar diesel that is currently installed? Is it the 8 hp YSM 8 as mentioned in the link below? Specifications of S2 8.0c Coming About ~ s/v Coming About https://s2-coming-about.blogspot.com/p/specifications.html You could put a bigger engine in (if desired), perhaps up to 25 - 30 hp at the most, but there is no point in going any bigger than this really.

Yes, it is the 8.0 C model. I'll most likely pull the current motor YSB 8 and install a 2 GMF. Increase the fuel and water capacities. Install more ports and windows along the front of the raised cockpit. Build a hardtop from the front of the cockpit to the end of the stern. Not sure of enclosing it. It has no mast or rigging.

That should turn out to be a very nice little trawler yacht. And with only 30" of draft, you shouldn't have to worry too much about her being 'too stiff' (re rolling) without the sailing rig. Re installing a 2GM engine instead of the YSB8 - this will be twice the power, so you might well have to change the propeller, depending on what the gearbox ratio is on the new engine when compared to the old engine. Here is some general info about the 2GM. Yanmar 2GM20 - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yanmar_2GM20 And she should be VERY economical on fuel - at least 10 miles per gallon, probably more (15 even?).

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Saildata shows 4' draft, is it a CB boat? Its a small, light, displacement boat and the current engine probably gives her all the power she can use, it would be a lot of work/costs for small improvement plus take up valuable room

Nice layout, I would concentrate on new deck and pilot house design, so many conversions ive seen turn into frankenboats

Allweather boats, same dimensions as yours

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I'd try to catch a ride on another converted sailboat. I've heard they will roll your guts out.

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Milehog said: ↑ I'd try to catch a ride on another converted sailboat. I've heard they will roll your guts out. Click to expand...

Well I got the boat home and started working on removing all the barnacles. I have already repaired the rudder and need to reseal the rudder stuffing box. I have to come up with some idea for the enclosure of the center cockpit.

sharpii2 Senior Member

I would consider adding a long, shallow keel. This would serve three purposes: 1.) Give the boat better tracking ability, so the wind doesn't blow it all over the place. 2.) Protect the rudder and propellor. 3.) Dampen any rolling which is likely to happen with a hull which has a lot of form stability. This keel should be close to the LWL of the boat in length and deeper at the stern than at the bow. It would have little if any ballast--maybe just enough to counteract its buoyancy. By my envelope calculations, this keel would be about 9.6 sf in area an add at most 6 inches to the boat's draft. This is because this hull has a rather deep bow knuckle and a tucked up stern. You could keep the original swing keel and motor with it half retracted. This would give you the directional control you need, but it would not protect the propellor, and it would do little to dampen the roll. The proposed cockpit awning will add weight high up from the Vertical Center of Buoyancy, even if it is just a lightly framed fabric type.

I drove down to Marathon Key yesterday and bought a Yanmar 2GMF20 for 500 dollars. It was submerged for some time. I'll rebuild it and install it in the near future. It should be a great upgrade over the old YSB8 I'm taking out. It was rebuilt and runs great. It's for sale. Cheap.

Chuck Losness Senior Member

You might want to consider adding a swim step/transom extension. Not that hard to do. It will smooth out the water flow off of the transom and help combat excessive squatting at higher speeds. It will also be a nice place to get on and off the boat. I extended the transom on my boat. Do a search for terminal trawlers and sailboat to powerboat conversions for more ideas for your project. I plan to do something similar if I ever sell my gulfstar 37.

That's a nice job you did on yours. I have a 31 ft 1984 Island Packet I've been trying to sell for over six months. It has no mast, rigging or sails. I'm unable to get 5000 for it . I'm on the verge of stripping it and using the 3gmf and all her internals to complete my trawler.

I would do exactly as sharpii recommends adding a long shallow keel. Chuck, that extension is what I would want on any boat I owned. Popeye jack can you pm me re: boat for sale and location

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I am looking at a S2 C/C. It has diesel that I like, but the Center consol is something I'm not familiar with. The owner claims it is "roomy". It has a full shoal draft keel. I want to take it from Florida to the Carribean. It is trailerable so I can truck it from Texas, and launch it in St Lucia. 2 adults 1 teen. Is it a "workable" boat or should I keep looking.

I haven't been on lone of those things for a looooong time. Like the 80's. But I remember crawling around on one on its cradle, and the owner's right. It's roomy. But so is a Bankok Wh....... It'll be interesting to see what others have to say about this rather unique boat. Amazingly, on a 28ft boat, you can actually go from the forward cabin to the the aft cabin without going on deck. Wow. And the aft cabin, as I recall, was fairly usable. IMHO though, even if others suggest she's a good sailor (which would surprise me), life is way to short to own an UGLY boat.

an 8.0C has a ton of room for a 26' boat, but the boat is aesthetically challenged. High freeboard for it's length. I have no idea how it sails, but one thing that has imp[ressed me from what I have seen, besides the functionality of the layout, is the great engine access. The engine can be accessed from both sides and above. because the cockpit is so high compared to an aft-cockpit boat, it may feel more tender and you may feel more motion. They strike me as good value in a small cruiser.

The 1976 S2(8.0) center cockpit shoal keel was the first sailboat that I learned to sail on. It had an Atomic 4 and was purchased in 1982 and sold a couple of years later when I bought a much larger boar. I sailed it on the Cheaspeake Bay south of Annapolis and while it had only a 2.5 foot draft allowing us it get in those shallow anchorages it's windward performance left a lot to be desired. That little Atomic 4 with only a 2 bladed prop and the high freeboard still was able to push that boat to windward at a good rate of speed. I never did feel comfortable sailing it under more severe wind conditions and would on those occasions just douse the sails and motor. Now that I have considerable more experience under sail, I would not be buying the S2 shoal draft for anything that might require useage in 20 plus knots going to windward.

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S2 8.0C Engine Compartment Pictures

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I have a 1976 S2 8.0C. I am doing a complete refurb. When I purchased the boat, the engine compartment and chart table were already removed. The atomic 4 was rebuilt and installed, but none of surrounding compartment was installed. The plywood separating the head and battery compartment from the engine compartment is still there. I have removed all the carpet from the boat and have almost completed re-coring the deck from underneath. It is time to start planning the re-build for the engine compartment. I am looking for pictures of S2 8.0C engine compartments so I can see what they originally looked like. If you have pictures or drawings or suggestions for this area, will you please send them to me? I will also be re-wiring the entire boat as well. I am a newbie to this forum, so if I need to add more to this thread, let me know.

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Here are a few photos but I'll take better photos of my 8.0c setup this weekend. In the past a previous owner added an air conditioner towards the rear of the engine compartment taking space away from the chart table. A quick description of my setup: the chart table pulls out to gain access to the top of the engine... a Yanmar YSM8 in my case. It is L-shaped and fits around the electrical panel leaving about a 2x2.5 foot of usable table space. There is a hatch on the vertical portion of the engine compartment that can be removed to work on the side of the engine.This is the same area our table top is stored when we're not using it. You can kind of see the view from the top and the side that I tried to describe. Do you have any more photos of your project boat? If find rehabs interesting, especially when it is an 8.0c! The re-coring from inside sounds interesting.

Thanks for input. Looking forward to the photos you will send. This is truly a project boat. I have taken a lot of pictures. Being new to the forum, I am not sure the best way to get them to you. Do I add them here or email them to you? I am re-coring from the inside so I don't mess up the design on the deck. Attached is what I took out and how I re-installed the new core. I made patterns with paper and then spray glued the pattern to the underside of the new core and cut it out. I used thickened epoxy on both the underside of the fiberglass and the top side of the core. I then clamped it using a 4” piece of foam on a ½ piece of plywood, all wrapped in plastic. I wedge it up against the new core and held it in place with plastic pipe and 36” bar clamps. Once dried, I removed the pattern. It actually worked well. It retained and followed the contour of the deck perfectly. My next step is to put the under skin of fiberglass I took off back on and then patch seams. I am not going to replace the carpet. I have decided to lay up a layer of cloth, epoxy it, sand, and then paint. Lot of work, but I can do the whole deck and cockpit myself for about $1,200.

You can add a photos here by going to your user settings and creating an album. The link will be on the right side of the page. You could also upload to one of the free photo hosting sites like picasaweb.google.com and upload photos there.

Looks like fun Be sure to wear the correct face mask and use tons of ventilation to deal with all the fumes or you will risk sensitizing yourself to epoxy resin. :cry:

Re: Looks like fun Thank you for the advice. I have been wearing goggles, mask, long sleeve shirt, long pants, hat, and gloves. All the ports and hatches are open and I work no longer than 3 hours at a time. I would like to find better eye protections. Do you have any suggestions for a particular type or brand name that seems to work well?

Re: Looks like fun No recommendation for eye protection. But keep in mind that you need a respirator rated for organic vapors, not just a dust mask, to protect yourself. In a pinch, most hardward stores sell cheap carbon impregnated dust masks for vapor, but I would get better than that given the scope of the job you have to do. http://www.westsystem.com/ss/how-to-prevent-overexposure-to-epoxy/

Here is a link to some photos of the engine compartment from my boat. Hope these help. https://picasaweb.google.com/klemsa...authkey=Gv1sRgCKWpodvG3pSU_gE&feat=directlink

Thank you for the pictures. This helps me a lot. What is the crank with the white handle used for?

Re: Looks like fun Thanks Bob. I will get one this week before I go back and epoxy any more.

Styx said: Thank you for the pictures. This helps me a lot. What is the crank with the white handle used for? Click to expand

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Klemsaba, your middle picture shows a sensor on the deck(bottom right side). whar is that for? my boat has a wood plug in it. thanks

That is the paddle wheel sensor for the knot meter.

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