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The Beneteau 311 combines the amenities of a large cruiser with the easy handling performance of a 30-footer. It features private cabins forward and aft, a full galley with plenty of storage, and a generous main salon with centerline table. The Beneteau 311 also features an optional retractable keel. All of these features make the 311 a versatile boat perfect for family cruising, or for simply relaxing and watching the sunset from the harbor.  The Beneteau 311 and Oceanis 311 are the same boat.  Beneteau USA just dropped the Oceanis name for marketing reasons.

  • Displacement 8,047 lbs
  • Draft 2’7 to 7’1
  • Engine 18 hp
  • Fuel 17 gallons
  • Water 48 gallons
  • Holding 13 gallons
  • Mast Height 46’7
  • Dspl/L 127.3
  • SA/Dspl 18.6

BoatPoint.com.au Review

Beneteau’s Oceanis Clipper 311 is one of the entry-level models in the marque’s Oceanis series of fast cruising yachts from 8-14m The Clipper 311’s GRP laminated hull measures 9.85m by 3.23m, and was designed by Group Finot as a true all-rounder. Rigged to be easily managed by the cruising couple, it also has the liveaboard credentials to comfortably accommodate a family. http://www.boatpoint.com.au/reviews/1999/beneteau-oceanis-clipper-311-8891  

YachtandBoat.com.au Review

25th Apr 2011 Issue: September 2000 If you want to draw a few conclusions about the complexity (or lack of it) of modern-day yacht design, have a look at the Oceanis 311 and its cousins. The Oceanis 311 has the same hull as the Beneteau 31.7, a handy and roomy cruiser/racer (tested in MB Sept ’99). This hull was designed in the early ’90s as a one-design boat for the Figaro race, a stage event around Europe in which many top solo skippers cut their teeth, build their reputations and head on to stardom in the extreme multi- and monohulls. http://www.yachtandboat.com.au/news/beneteau-oceanis-311-review  

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The Beneteau Oceanis 311 was designed by Groupe Finot in 1998 and offers an enjoyable combination of lively yet controlled sailing and luxurious accommodation. Like the earlier Oceanis 300, the Oceanis 311 comes in two versions, the fin-keel and the lift-keel, twin rudder version (the latter proving especially popular in France). She uses the same basic hull design as the Figaro I racing class and the First 31.7, and these impressive racing class credentials give her a level of performance unusual amongst other blue water and coastal cruisers. http://www.go-sail.co.uk/beneteauoceanis311.asp   Contact Murray Yacht Sales to upgrade to the new Neil Pryde PBF Main (vertical battens & more sail area) for the In Mast Furling option for any of the US built models. Available:

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Beneteau 311 for offshore

Discussion in ' Sailboats ' started by bretag , Apr 27, 2019 .

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Looking at Beneteau 311's as a future great lakes sailboat, perhaps with some later blue water voyages. What are your thoughts on the suitability of these sailboats for offshore passages? Please consider both the fixed and drop keel versions. Thanks, Bretag  

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It all depends what you mean by "suitability". The hull was designed for racing (Figaro 1). The rig was designed for simple handling. I suppose the interior is to your liking. Blue water voyages are a matter of mindset first and gear second. If you are only comfortable going offshore in a 50 feet + full keel steel ketch the Bene is unsuitable. The important things gearvise are autopilot/windvane, electrical generation capabilities, watermaker/water storage, anchor and rode. Asuming the keelbolts are ok, the rigging sound and a watertight boat you can go blue water cruising if you are ok with the boats technical solutions.  

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Agree with Rumars on the essentials for offshore/bluewater cruising. The Beneteau 311 is a lighter displacement hull and from what I've read it can be knocked around quite a bit in heavy seas. In my opinion it comes up short as it is just not as tough of a boat. Here's a couple of references for 30ft boats you might review if you're serious about offshore sailing. You'll want to be as comfortable & self-reliant as possible to go the long haul. Don't sell yourself short. 5 small sailboats for sailing around the world - WaterborneMag.com https://waterbornemag.com/5-small-sailboats-for-sailing-around-the-world/ The Alberg 30 is another great hull. I would suggest closely comparing the capabilities of the Bene 311 for offshore use. The Alberg 30 Sailboat http://bluewaterboats.org/alberg-30/  

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I've sailed the sister hull, the 31.7, a couple of times but not in bad conditions. It's a nice boat, capable of surprising speed considering how roomy it is. The interior is vastly roomier than on the old-style narrow-beam short waterline 30 footers. First 31.7s have done the Fastnet and the Caribbean 600, so they must have the required stability. The 311 keel version, though, has much less draft so is probably significantly less stable. If you took one offshore, you may want to make sure that it's not overloaded with baggy old furling jibs or a "radar arch", bimini and other topweight. The keel/centreboard version could be problematic as far as stability; you'd want to make sure it had sufficient LPS.  
CT do you think the people at Beneteau stupid or what? The keel/centreboard version has more ballast to compensate for the reduced draft. Oceanis 311: fin keel 2425lb ballast, keel/centreboard 3086lb ballast. This hulls have a big form stability component anyhow, they do not rely on ballast alone to keep them up.  
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No, I don't think they are stupid and nothing in my post implied that. I think they are intelligent manufacturers, who could decide to trade off ultimate stability in exchange for lower weight in a boat in which shoal draft is a major selling point. All boats are compromises and there is nothing wrong merely with asking someone to make sure which compromise Beneteau had chosen to make.Yes, of course the hull has a large form stability component, but my comment specifically referred to LPS, where form stability can be an issue.' The fact is that Beneteau DO change the effective ballast ratio for the Figaro/31.7/311 hull. Available data says that the 2400kg displacement Figaro had 900kg of keel ballast at 1.8m, the 3,750kg 31.7 has 1025kg of ballast at 1.9m draft, the 3,500kg 311 just 1100kg of ballast at 1.4m. Beneteau therefore do NOT always give the different versions of this hull more ballast to compensate for the reduced draft. Since Beneteau DON'T ensure that all versions have similar ballast/draft or RM ratios, there is no reason for me to assume they do! The other issue is that I can't find information on the LPS of either form of the Oceanis, therefore checking the LPS is a reasonable thing to advise. Re "the hull was designed for racing". My information, direct from the head of the Australian importer and intended to be relied upon, was that they intended to use the hull not just as a racer in the Figaro 1 form, but also as a cruiser/racer and cruiser in other forms (ie 31.7, 311, etc). That is why they chose Finot for their smaller boats and Farr for the bigger ones - the VPPs indicate that while Farr designs were a better speed/space mix in the bigger boats (34 feet and up) the Finots were better speed/space mixes in the smaller ones. The 31.7 hull is noticeably fuller in the bow than most Farrs. Farr could well have designed a faster racing hull, but that was not the aim.  

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The Beneteau Oceanis Clipper 311 Sailboat Specs & Key Performance Indicators

The Beneteau Oceanis Clipper 311 was designed by Group Finot, and built by the French boatbuilder, Beneteau. Its production period was from 2001 to 2005 over which a total of 1,040 boats were manufactured.

Beneteau Oceanis Clipper 311

The Beneteau Oceanis Clipper 311 was available in two versions with different drafts:

  • The fixed-keel version has a draft of 4'8" (1.42m);
  • The centreboard-equipped version which has a draft of 7'1" (2.2m) with the centreboard down and 2'7" (0.8m) with it up.

Published Specification for the Beneteau Oceanis Clipper 311

Underwater Profile:  Bulb fin keel with twin rudders

Hull Material:  GRP (Fibreglass)

Length Overall:  32'3" (9.8m)

Waterline Length:  28'8" (8.7m)

Beam:  10'6" (8.7m)

Draft:  4'8" (1.4m)

Rig Type:  Fractional sloop

Displacement:  7.716lb (3,500kg)

Ballast: 2,425lb (1,100kg)

Performance Predictions based on the Design Ratios

Based on the published design ratios, the Beneteau Oceanis Clipper 311 is expected to deliver a solid performance.

  • Its Sail Area to Displacement Ratio (SA/D) of 22.1 indicates a well-powered sailboat capable of impressive speeds, particularly in heavier winds. It does, however, require skilled handling in stronger winds.
  • The Ballast to Displacement Ratio (B/D) of 31.4 suggests a moderate level of stability. This boat will respond lively to wind gusts and may heel quite rapidly, yet it will also offer an exciting and responsive sailing experience.
  • A Displacement to Length Ratio (D/L) of 146 places the boat in the heavier displacement category. This means it may not perform well in light wind conditions, but it will be more comfortable and steady during long-distance cruising, providing a smoother journey at sea.
  • The Comfort Ratio (CR) of 17.5 falls into the middle range suggesting a good level of comfort for the crew during sailing. This sailboat would not have a very rough motion in waves, making it well-suited for average wind and sea conditions.
  • Finally, the Capsize Screening Formula (CSF) value of 2.1 is slightly above the general safety guideline of 2.0. This indicates that the boat could be more prone to capsize in certain conditions. However, it doesn’t necessarily mean the boat is unsafe, but it does underline the importance of skilled handling and prudent seamanship.

To summarize, the Beneteau Oceanis Clipper 311 should present a balance between comfort and performance, offering an enjoyable cruising experience particularly in moderate to heavy wind conditions.

The Designer

Group Finot, now known as Finot-Conq Architects, is a renowned yacht design firm that has been instrumental in bringing forth some acclaimed sailboats.

Pioneered by Jean-Marie Finot and Pascal Conq, the design team has been credited for their innovative and performance-driven design approach in the competitive sailing realm. They have been the vanguard behind the acclaimed designs of both racing yachts and cruising yachts. Notably, they have designed a series of Beneteau models including the Beneteau Oceanis range.

They also designed the Opium 39, the Pogo range for Structures shipyard which includes Pogo 30, Pogo 36 and the high-speed cruiser Pogo 50. Their portfolio is diverse and extensive, marking their significant influence in sailing yacht design.

The Builder

Beneteau, founded by Benjamin Bénéteau in 1884, is one of the oldest and most prominent boat-building companies in the world. Originating as a small shipyard in Croix-de-Vie, France, Beneteau initially built fishing boats and later expanded to recreational yachts due to increased leisure sailing popularity. The company is famed for its Oceanis, First, and Sense series in the sailing categories, and Antares and Flyer series in the motorboats segment. Iconic models over the years include the Beneteau First 30, Oceanis 38, and Beneteau Oceanis 55.

Today Beneteau has developed into a global leader in boat building, encompassing numerous other brands including Jeanneau, Lagoon, and Prestige under its umbrella. Despite the industry fluctuations, Beneteau has preserved its status and is very much a thriving entity. Today, under Luca Brancaleon's leadership, it continues to manufacture an array of dedicated cruising and racing sailboats, and motorboats, along with luxury yachts, symbolizing the unmistakable French nautical engineering and design.

In conclusion, the Beneteau Oceanis Clipper 311, with its robust manufacturing and thoughtful design, has carved out a significant place among cruising sailboats. Notably lauded by the sailing press for its fusion of performance, stability, and comfort, the yacht carries the distinctive stamp of its designers, the Group Finot.

Many owners have often reported their satisfaction with the boat, noting its adept handling in diverse sailing conditions, its seaworthy characteristics, and the living comfort it grants.

Although production ceased in 2005, consistent demand for this model remains a testament to its enduring appeal. Despite newer models and designs joining the sailing scene, the Beneteau Oceanis Clipper 311 continues to be highly reliable, embodying the brand's tradition of quality and innovation while also echoing Group Finot's maritime design expertise.

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I wrote this article using GPT-4, OpenAI’s large-scale language-generation model, as a research assistant to develop source material. I wrote the final draft in its entirety and believe it to be accurate to the best of my knowledge.

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BENETEAU 311 Detailed Review

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If you are a boat enthusiast looking to get more information on specs, built, make, etc. of different boats, then here is a complete review of BENETEAU 311. Built by Beneteau and designed by Jean Marie Finot (Groupe Finot), the boat was first built in 1998. It has a hull type of Fin w/bulb & spade rudder and LOA is 9.83. Its sail area/displacement ratio 22.16. Its auxiliary power tank, manufactured by Yanmar, runs on Diesel.

BENETEAU 311 has retained its value as a result of superior building, a solid reputation, and a devoted owner base. Read on to find out more about BENETEAU 311 and decide if it is a fit for your boating needs.

Boat Information

Boat specifications, sail boat calculation, rig and sail specs, auxillary power tank, accomodations, contributions, who designed the beneteau 311.

BENETEAU 311 was designed by Jean Marie Finot (Groupe Finot).

Who builds BENETEAU 311?

BENETEAU 311 is built by Beneteau.

When was BENETEAU 311 first built?

BENETEAU 311 was first built in 1998.

How long is BENETEAU 311?

BENETEAU 311 is 8.74 m in length.

What is mast height on BENETEAU 311?

BENETEAU 311 has a mast height of 11.16 m.

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Beneteau Oceanis 311

Beneteau Oceanis 311 is a 32 ′ 3 ″ / 9.8 m monohull sailboat designed by Jean Marie Finot (Groupe Finot) and built by Beneteau starting in 1998.

Drawing of Beneteau Oceanis 311

Rig and Sails

Auxilary power, accomodations, calculations.

The theoretical maximum speed that a displacement hull can move efficiently through the water is determined by it's waterline length and displacement. It may be unable to reach this speed if the boat is underpowered or heavily loaded, though it may exceed this speed given enough power. Read more.

Classic hull speed formula:

Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

Sail Area / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

  • SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
  • D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

Displacement / Length Ratio

A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

  • D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
  • LWL: Waterline length in feet

Comfort Ratio

This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

  • D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
  • LOA: Length overall in feet
  • Beam: Width of boat at the widest point in feet

Capsize Screening Formula

This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

P with roller furling mast = 36.29 ft/11.06m The FIGARO SOLO, FIRST 310, FIRST 31.7, STARDUST 311, and OCEANIS 300 are all based on this same hull design. OPTIONAL LIFTING KEEL W/TWIN RUDDERS: (not shown on drawing) This model features twin rudders and a wing/plate at the bottom of the keel that keeps the boat upright when beaching. (OCEANIS 311 CLIPPER designates a version with more standard equipment.)

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Ahoy James I do not have any direct experiance with the 311 model, however, I am an owner of a 1999 Beneteau 281 which is the model the 311 replaced. I have looked (inside and out) at a 311 at my Beneteau dealer. I find the boats to have more in common then i see diffrences, so i will relate my thoughts about my boat and hope that will be helpful to you. Let me first explain i don''t hold to the bigger is better school of thought and 90% of my sailing is single handed. I cruise the NorthEast and find that the 281 is an excellant coastal cruiser. Simple systems that are done well. She will stand up in a blow but you will have to reef earlier than other boats. Once you have the sail plan balanced for the condistions your sailing in she runs like she is on a rail. I have been out in winds of 35+kts making 8+ kts which is all you can ask of a boat with a 25 ft waterline. She handled it well. On the other hand, she is not the best light air boat. Buy a cruising chute as I use mine often. She will sail closer to the wind than most others and give you a respectable turn of speed in winds speeds over 10 kts. I bought the boat new in 1999 and have experianced no major problems, just keep up on the mantainance as you would with any other boat. Go for the Yammar, change the filters each year and she will start every time. Any time I needed parts or questions anwsered my dealer and Beneteau have been more that helpful. When I was shopping for my boat I looked at all the others but kept comming back to Beneteau as I feel you get more boat of the dollar with the Beneteau. I hope this helps and if I can anwser any other questions please let me know. Regards, Mike S/V BubbaII  

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My search for my first yacht continues and I would appreciate any points regarding a Beneteau Oceanis 311 Clipper, circa 20 years old. She had new sails and looks well cared for, a lot of other extra inventory and well equipped. My original brief was to find a yacht to allow my young family (wife, 8 and 5 year old's) to get into sailing - Having sailed mainly dinghy's in my younger days and only been on a yacht a few times over the years, this will be a new venture for all of us in many ways. I was originally looking for a Bavaria 34 cruiser or bigger, wanted a yacht to do some coastal cruising and on occasion cross the English Channel... Please share your thoughts on a Beneteau Oceanis 311 Clipper being able to meet this brief. Many thanks.  

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I don’t see why not? some people will need want a bigger boat for all sorts of reasons but often smaller is better, especially for a first boat. It will be also cheaper and easier to moor , maintain and handle as you get used to a bigger boat from what you’ve been used to. The accommodation should be perfectly adequate and they are at least as well built as the Bavaria - I looked at both before buying an older Westerly Storm which suits me better for all sorts of reasons. You and your family really need to go and look at as many of the boats you are interested in, preferably back to back in the shortest space of time to get a good feel for them.  

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DueSouth said: My original brief was to find a yacht to allow my young family (wife, 8 and 5 year old's) to get into sailing - Having sailed mainly dinghy's in my younger days and only been on a yacht a few times over the years, this will be a new venture for all of us in many ways. Click to expand...

I am an expert "what boat" thread aficionado and a slightly less expert sailor. One thing since brexit and the pandemic is that it's all very well doing masses of research but in reality there is not much available. It is also clear to me that when everyone asks about capabilities of boats, the capability of the skipper is usually miles more important than the capability of the boat. Shane Acton circumnavigated on a 19 foot caprice, Jonathan Green won the Ostar (Original Single Handed Transatlantic Race) in a Beneteau Oceanis 351. So if the boat doesn't smell too bad and it gets a decent survey go for it before it sells! Actually the most important question is if your wife likes it? If not you will be sailing on your own. If you procrastinate it will be gone.  

Bobc

It'll do the job just fine.  

johnalison

It’ll do what it says on the tin. Boats of that general style will need reefing earlier than you may be used to, for comfort and decent performance, but that may not be a bad thing and will make you and the family more aware of the weather. Many people start with something like a Bav 34, but although it s a forgiving boat it is larger than I would think ideal. You would trade a little more comfort against greater costs, heavier loads when handling gear, and a boat that was less handy to manoeuvre in harbour.  

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I owned a Beneteau 323 for 10 years (just a slightly updated 311 with same hull and layout and mostly same machinery and gear.). Sailed her from UK to the Med and served me proud. Even lived aboard for around 9 months. Aft cabin is big for adults and vberth great for kids and occasional guests. Great sized heads! Huge cockpit locker. As others say, reef early, more comfortable and sails faster. Your hull is a domesticated Figaro race design which was a fast design In its day. Relatively flat hull so they can slam a bit in the rough. I‘ve never been a fast (or good) sailer but I worked on 6 - 7kts for passage planning And usually kept pace with bigger boats. At just under 10m they are easy to squeeze into busy marinas and I found having less beam than modern designs they fit better in older marinas where berths can be a bit narrower. As you would expect, deep keel versions track a bit better and point higher than the shallow draft or lift keel version. Easy to manage single handed And perfect for a couple. usually a 21hp Yanmar that gives enough push but check engine elbow has been changed. Mine also needed a water pump in the last season I owned her, might be worth checking. Manoeuvres well, I found them easy to park. As with any boat of that age check the obvious stuff. I ran a program of running maintenance; I’d changed all seacocks (a couple each season), shaft seal, shaft bearing, etc. check the fridge as the compressor is getting older and mine was problematic at times. Holding tank pump might need a refresh. Mine had the vetus pump and the joker valves needed routine fettling (have spares aboard When cruising). My boat was 15yrs old when I sold her and there were no major issues with survey. The 311 /323 are great small family coastal cruisers that can have longer legs to hop over Biscay, etc if prepped well.  

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Any boat should be able yo do what you want. Boats of all eras have their benefits and problems. The advice would be to find a boat that you like and is in acceptable condition. The Beneteau Oceanis 311 Clipper should meet your requirements, so try to see it as soon as possible and if you like it, negociate to buy it.  

Concerto said: Any boat should be able yo do what you want. Boats of all eras have their benefits and problems. The advice would be to find a boat that you like and is in acceptable condition. The Beneteau Oceanis 311 Clipper should meet your requirements, so try to see it as soon as possible and if you like it, negociate to buy it. Click to expand...
roblpm said: I am an expert "what boat" thread aficionado and a slightly less expert sailor. One thing since brexit and the pandemic is that it's all very well doing masses of research but in reality there is not much available. It is also clear to me that when everyone asks about capabilities of boats, the capability of the skipper is usually miles more important than the capability of the boat. Shane Acton circumnavigated on a 19 foot caprice, Jonathan Green won the Ostar (Original Single Handed Transatlantic Race) in a Beneteau Oceanis 351. So if the boat doesn't smell too bad and it gets a decent survey go for it before it sells! Actually the most important question is if your wife likes it? If not you will be sailing on your own. If you procrastinate it will be gone. Click to expand...
Firefly211 said: I owned a Beneteau 323 for 10 years (just a slightly updated 311 with same hull and layout and mostly same machinery and gear.). Sailed her from UK to the Med and served me proud. Even lived aboard for around 9 months. Aft cabin is big for adults and vberth great for kids and occasional guests. Great sized heads! Huge cockpit locker. As others say, reef early, more comfortable and sails faster. Your hull is a domesticated Figaro race design which was a fast design In its day. Relatively flat hull so they can slam a bit in the rough. I‘ve never been a fast (or good) sailer but I worked on 6 - 7kts for passage planning And usually kept pace with bigger boats. At just under 10m they are easy to squeeze into busy marinas and I found having less beam than modern designs they fit better in older marinas where berths can be a bit narrower. As you would expect, deep keel versions track a bit better and point higher than the shallow draft or lift keel version. Easy to manage single handed And perfect for a couple. usually a 21hp Yanmar that gives enough push but check engine elbow has been changed. Mine also needed a water pump in the last season I owned her, might be worth checking. Manoeuvres well, I found them easy to park. As with any boat of that age check the obvious stuff. I ran a program of running maintenance; I’d changed all seacocks (a couple each season), shaft seal, shaft bearing, etc. check the fridge as the compressor is getting older and mine was problematic at times. Holding tank pump might need a refresh. Mine had the vetus pump and the joker valves needed routine fettling (have spares aboard When cruising). My boat was 15yrs old when I sold her and there were no major issues with survey. The 311 /323 are great small family coastal cruisers that can have longer legs to hop over Biscay, etc if prepped well. Click to expand...
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fredrussell

KompetentKrew said: I too am speechless at @Concerto 's failure to recommend a more suitable Westerly. Click to expand...
Concerto said: Many people seem to be satisfied with these more modern boats and I can see no reason why he would not get satisfactory sailing from one. It would not be my choice, Click to expand...

Beneteau381

DueSouth said: My search for my first yacht continues and I would appreciate any points regarding a Beneteau Oceanis 311 Clipper, circa 20 years old. She had new sails and looks well cared for, a lot of other extra inventory and well equipped. My original brief was to find a yacht to allow my young family (wife, 8 and 5 year old's) to get into sailing - Having sailed mainly dinghy's in my younger days and only been on a yacht a few times over the years, this will be a new venture for all of us in many ways. I was originally looking for a Bavaria 34 cruiser or bigger, wanted a yacht to do some coastal cruising and on occasion cross the English Channel... Please share your thoughts on a Beneteau Oceanis 311 Clipper being able to meet this brief. Many thanks. Click to expand...

V1701

Concerto said: ... As for fredrussell, well his comments do nothing to help the OP as it is nonsense. By the way I do not have any red trousers. Click to expand...

Skylark

Concerto said: The OP, DueSouth, is looking for a safe cruising boat for his young family. Many people seem to be satisfied with these more modern boats and I can see no reason why he would not get satisfactory sailing from one. It would not be my choice, but my Westerly Fulmar suits me just fine and I expect to keep her until I swallow the anchor. It seems just answering the OP's question is too much for you, Skylark and Buck Turgidson. As for fredrussell, well his comments do nothing to help the OP as it is nonsense. By the way I do not have any red trousers. Click to expand...

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Hull Cracked / Deck Damaged - Beneteau 311

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Dear Beneteau Oceanis 311 Colleagues, Last week I purchased a 2003 Beneteau Oceanis 311. The original owner kept it in excellent conditions and meticulously fixed all AA problems during his 10-year ownership. Unfortunately, on the first day of our journey to the sailboat’s new marina we ran into bad weather. Wind gusts reached at times @ 20 to 25 knots. At one point during the middle of the storm we heard a strange noise as if something had cracked. Immediately thereafter we proceeded to shorten the mainsail and conducted a quick inspection of the deck and inside the cabin. However, all seemed perfectly fine. The next day we sailed off again. The weather was perfect; sunny, 3 feet waves, and 6 knots wind. After approximately 4 hours into the trip, we noticed a football bubble on the port side chainplate U Bolt. The toe rail was bent as well. A similar bubble was starting to swell on the starboard side at the chainplate U Bolt. We then immediately lowered the sails and called for assistance from a nearby marina. When we arrived to the marina we noticed that the port side of the hull was cracked open almost 2 inches in width by 10 inches in length. I wish to know whether any Beneteau Oceanis 311 owner has ever run into a similar problem and the corrective measures, from an engineering standpoint, undertaken to fix the problem. I am not sure whether building a thicker fiberglass layer under the deck will be enough to withstand the pressure caused by the installation of a new set of chainplate U Bolts. Another option is to fabricate a steel plate (1/2 inch thick x 16 inches in length x 4 inches in width) and affix it under the new fiberglass layer under the deck. Thank you for your kind attention and assistance. Best. Raul [email protected]  

Raul Having had 4 Beneteaus over the past 30 years - never heard of a situation like this. The typical chainplate arrangement for Beneteau is to have the shrouds terminate on deck into a plate. This plate is bolted to a similar plate underneath the deck with a large stainless rod carrying the load/tension to a u bolt glassed to the lower hull. Last year I had the shroud plate rebedded on my 423 because of a leak. The factory advised the dealer on the tension for the connecting rod under the deck (which has a turnbuckle) as over tensioning would compress the deck around the shroud and ultimately crack it. Simple hand tightening was all that was required. I bring that up because if these stainless rods were overtensioned that might contribute to your problem. Since you have the problem around the hull deck joint you should probably check both the deck and hull around the compression post since downward pressure on the mast may have caused a problem there as well. Also curious: was the mast down when you bought it? If so who rigged the boat. Was a prepurchase survey done?  

TJ, I have attached three pictures which illustrate the extent of the damage caused to the deck and hull. The damaged chainplates for the upper and lower shrouds are attached to bulkheads. Also, I don't have the rigging history on this boat yet, but I will certainly ask the previous owner. With respect to the mast, it wasn't down when I purchased the boat. Lastly, I did commission a survey inspection prior to the purchase, which BTW passed with flying colors. Thank you for the kind advice. RB  

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raul bandas said: TJ, I have attached three pictures which illustrate the extent of the damage caused to the deck and hull. The damaged chainplates for the upper and lower shrouds are attached to bulkheads. Also, I don't have the rigging history on this boat yet, but I will certainly ask the previous owner. With respect to the mast, it wasn't down when I purchased the boat. Lastly, I did commission a survey inspection prior to the purchase, which BTW passed with flying colors. Thank you for the kind advice. RB Click to expand

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Captn TJ said: Raul Having had 4 Beneteaus over the past 30 years - never heard of a situation like this. The typical chainplate arrangement for Beneteau is to have the shrouds terminate on deck into a plate. This plate is bolted to a similar plate underneath the deck with a large stainless rod carrying the load/tension to a u bolt glassed to the lower hull. Last year I had the shroud plate rebedded on my 423 because of a leak. The factory advised the dealer on the tension for the connecting rod under the deck (which has a turnbuckle) as over tensioning would compress the deck around the shroud and ultimately crack it. Simple hand tightening was all that was required. I bring that up because if these stainless rods were overtensioned that might contribute to your problem. Since you have the problem around the hull deck joint you should probably check both the deck and hull around the compression post since downward pressure on the mast may have caused a problem there as well. Also curious: was the mast down when you bought it? If so who rigged the boat. Was a prepurchase survey done? Click to expand

Ron20324

Re: Hull cracked / Deck damaged I have a B323, and at 20 to 25, I would have had the main reefed. Not having been there with you, it's impossible to speculate if the rigging was over-canvased and undue pressure on the rigging and mast. Perhaps the bow smacked down into a awave? Since you had a survey done and other possible causes, I'd think it is hard to point blame.  

Raul This should not have happened in 20-25 kts of wind regardless of how much sail was up. If you were over canvassed you would have been knocked down. The chainplate arrangement is quite a departure from what I'm use to seeing on Beneteau's. is there another 311 that you can look at to see if the same arrangement exists? What is also interesting is that this is a 10 yr old boat. At some point it should have been through some high winds and manufacturing problems would have been visible. My armchair analysis is that the rigging was way over tensioned on both sides with the high winds/full sails contributing to the damage.  

sandpiper10471

Re: Hull cracked / Deck damaged My armchair tells me someone removed the structural struts in order to renovate the interior and failed to reinstall them. Go after the surveyor who should have caught this.  

peoples1234

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Re: Hull cracked / Deck damaged What's the rest of the story about your sailing conditions. Do you think it is possible that you hit something underwater? Did you stuff the bow into a wave while sailing off the wind on port tack? Did you gybe hard at any time, allowing the main to slam into the port side rigging? You don't tell us how well you were handling the winds and seas. I agree that these things should not normally happen when properly sailing a properly rigged boat in 25 mph winds.  

anchorclanker

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Not only does there not appear to be a bulkhead, there does not appear to be any stay/chainplate ties to the hull. I get the feeling this is not as it came from the factory? Beneteau has a good reputation as much as I have read, just cant imagine this is how it was made. Also cant imagine a surveyor wouldnt have seen this, but they cant see everything?  

same as a B323 People's last picture on deck is a good example also of my 323. The stanchions are angled out, and they always hit the pilings when moving in/out of the slip and other boats when rafting up. One lifeline was between the shrouds, and the other was outside of both shrouds. Not a "squared ship", to say the least! Also, you can see that if you are leaning on the lifelines, you are already outboard of the toerail, and "off" the boat. I took my stanchions to the local shop and had them bent inward at the base and all is well. The lifelines now are between the shrouds, giving the LLs additional support. And yes, my shrouds are anchored at the toerail, no doubt to get them as far outboard as possible..  

ph034495

311 deck damaged sorry about this event to your boat. I must say i was amazed at the damage from such a small gust. I sail in Hawaii were we routinely get gusts in excess if 35 knots! Knock downs are not uncommon and I could not believe that your hull did not have chain plates continuing the shrouds to a more rigid attachment. I went to the beneteau web site to look at the 311 spare parts and compare the 311 with the 321(middle picture) and 323 (right picture), it appears as discussed that the 311 (left picture) terminates at the deck joint.. Hope insurance covers this one. i will follow thread good luck.. don  

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Ron20324 said: People's last picture on deck is a good example also of my 323. The stanchions are angled out, and they always hit the pilings when moving in/out of the slip and other boats when rafting up. One lifeline was between the shrouds, and the other was outside of both shrouds. Not a "squared ship", to say the least! Also, you can see that if you are leaning on the lifelines, you are already outboard of the toerail, and "off" the boat. I took my stanchions to the local shop and had them bent inward at the base and all is well. The lifelines now are between the shrouds, giving the LLs additional support. And yes, my shrouds are anchored at the toerail, no doubt to get them as far outboard as possible.. Click to expand
DJBrookster said: However, your second post makes little sense in relation to the OP. Click to expand

Jackdaw

Ouch. Very sorry to see this. This type of rigging is becoming more and more popular; shrouds out to the gunwales. Wider rig base hence less tension. When this is done, typically there is a structure on the HULL to take the rigging load, or transfer it to the structural grid. Thie only thing I can think of is that the mast was re-rigged and way too much tension was put on. Typically you load the rig with 20% or breaking strength and expect maybe 50%. I'd take a very close look at who did the rigging and how. Maybe metallurgy can be examined to understand how much tension the rig was under. Good luck with the boat. Hope it can be saved. But if your insurance gives you a good out, take it.  

Maine Sail

watercayman

I'm really sorry to hear about this, especially as you just got the boat. My 311 has the same basic system, though it is nearly impossible to see very much without completely taking out the cabinetry. I suspect the 323 is the same, as my boat (a 2005 model) was so late off the line it had many of the 323 parts and schematics stuck into it. It does feel like the glass around this area is reinforced. How much, I can't tell. I spoke to an engineer friend who noted that the stress would also be taken up and spread out via the toe rail, which the chain goes through and is attached to the deck at ~3 inch intervals. He thought there was plenty of support by this design. I'm no engineer. I did a lot of research on this model before purchase. Between this and the 323 there were over 500 boats produced. The 311 model was dominant in Europe and the 323 more so in the USA. This is the first time I've ever seen anything like this. The 311 was a very popular charter boat for a good 5 years in the Mediterranean. If that doesn't stress test the boat, I'm not sure what will. I typically sail the boat in 16-20kts of wind, with various amounts of sail, and have been out in 20+ for short periods before reefing. The boat rounds up when significantly over-canvassed, and to me this seems like a built-in stress relief on the chain plates. This being said, I have never jibed the boat in that force of wind... but I'm guessing those charter boats likely have. It is also interesting to note that the big-brother 331 does have the strut, but the chain plate does not go through the toe-rail, but rather it is about 1 foot inwards. The comments below about the rigging potentially being over-tightened or a poor quality control issue seem to make the most sense to me given the complete lack of previously reported failure. I wish you the best and hope you are able to resolve it and enjoy the boat again. Mike  

beneteau 311 sailboat review

I'm amazed to see so little backing and no hull attached chain plates. Even my O'day 26 and Hunter 23 had stronger attachments. What is the tension like after the damage? If they are both still very tight, it's clear they were over tensioned. Hopefully she can be repaired and reinforced. Have you contacted Beneteau?  

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