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Pippin 20 Yacht / Trailer Sailer

Pippin 20 yacht

The Pippin 20 was designed Pippin Yachts, which was founded in the 1990s and has been producing the popular Pippin 20 ever since. Crafted by hand this little yacht is made from fine materials and comes as a complete boat, with a choice of carpet and upholstery you too can have a hand in creating your very own yacht.

The priorities for the PIPPIN 20 were low cost, ease of handling and lots of room, all this plus ease of towing, launching and recovery make the PIPPIN 20 very economical and a truly great package, not to mention great fun for the first time user and the most experienced sailer.

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Length : 6.3m Beam : 2.9m Weight : 850kg Sail Area : 16.40m sq Berths : 2-4

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Have just purchased a Pippin 20 after lots of research but not yet taken to the water as needs vhf, echo sounder fitting and other extras. Can say that she appears to have been very carefully designed and well built with attention to detail. Can also say the mast lowering system works extremely well, managed it first time in a few minutes. Trailed without problem. Re stepped mast just as quickly. Will post info on how she sails soon. Would be pleased to see comments from existing owners, with any tips on launching etc.

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• Thread starter Tam Lin
• Start date 27 Aug 2011
• 27 Aug 2011

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Anyone got or sailed in a Pippin 20? I would welcome any opinions on them e.g. how well do they sail, how stable are they, are they a practical trailer sailer? Thanks, Bob C  

Just had a look at the spec', she's a bit lightly ballasted with only 441lbs, and that may be high up - ineffective - in the hull rather than keel, couldn't tell from the bit I looked at. Otherwise looks quite a good design, with a well for the outboard which is infinitely preferable to hanging it on the transom. Still getting on the large side for trailer sailing; have you seen the various threads re. trailer sailing, ie unless you have a specific set-up and known good uncrowded slipway in mind, it is NOT the solution it may first appear; Large boat to tow with overhanging mast, requiring large vehicle, both for practicality and legalities. Immersing a trailer in salt water will lead to corrosion problems with brakes, bearings etc which good maintenance only delays. Once you have towed the boat to a slip, it will usually be crowded if it's a nice day. Launch boat ( an operation in itself ), find somewhere safe to leave it. Find somewhere secure to park car & trailer. Raise mast and rig boat. Go sailing on what tide there is left. Return, de-rig & lower mast. Fight to get trailer on slipway. Recover boat - not always easy on a slippery ramp. Tow home If the boat is kept on the trailer, it will not be possible to maintain the retracted lift keel. Towing even a dinghy and rigging it is a pain, with a larger boat it's much much worse; consider a half tide mooring, on mud not hard sand.  

Go talk to the man who builds 'em! He seems a pretty straight up sort of chap to me We had a long chat with him last year at Southampton 'cos we were seriously considering the boat ourselves - in the end our finances couldn't stretch to a new boat A trial sail was offered at a mutually agreeable time and date to be arranged (due to the aforementioned finances it never happened!) My views on the boat were (and are) ... The boat & trailer combo is pretty light and legally towable behind the average medium sized car - but without 4 wheel drive getting on and off slipways could be a problem. In other respects, it would be no harder (or easier) to tow than a moderately large caravan As Seajet rightly points out she's perhaps a bit under-ballasted. A ballast ratio of 25% isn't ideal but she does meet RCD Cat.C so she's obviously not desperately unstable! The ballast, I believe, is mostly carried in the shoe at the bottom of the lifting keel - which by the way is an important point because although she is perfectly happy drying out she won't dry out totally level on a hard bottom. On deck and below decks the design is clever and the build quality, from what I could see, looks very good. A lot of thought has gone into the practicalities of cruising on a small(ish) boat - clever touches such as being able to move the loo at night so that you don't have to turf your other half out of the forward berth to use it, a usable galley cum nav station and some separation of the below decks space for a modicum of privacy without making it feel overly cramped all caught our eye. I can't comment from experience on the performance of the boat as we didn't, in the end, arrange a trial sail. My guess would be she'll perform as well as you could expect a boat of her size, displacement, draught and general shape to perform (in other words, in the right conditions, she'll go along nicely but don't expect miracles and don't head off across the deep blue sea in a gale!) All of Seajets other points are perfectly valid but apply generally to all trailer sailers rather than the Pippin 20 specifically. Indeed, it's a pretty comprehensive list of the reasons why we elected to go up a bit in size and keep the boat on a mooring (whilst still having the option to tow the boat behind a small 4x4 if at some point in the future we want/need to do so) If I was still in the market for a trailer sailer and had the finance to go new I would definitely be giving the Pippin 20 a try out on the water. Can't say fairer than that really  

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Fantasie 19 said: it doesn't say how much of that weight is on the end of the lifting keel... Click to expand...

Fantasie 19 said: having said that a lot of the comments make reference to the stability of the boat when you step into it.... something doesn't add up.... Click to expand...

Fantasie 19 said: Things that tick my list big time - outboard well, and a counter hung rudder... Click to expand...

One thing perhaps worth pointing out; ballast ratio means a lot more than 'how stable is it'. It means the ability to stand up to the sails and drive the boat, especially to windward; a boat which can't do this will just sit there and get clobbered, even in moderate winds, so either goes downwind or relies on a larger than average motor. One thing; outboards are not designed to be left in the water all the time, or will suffer greatly increased corrosion; the ideal is to lift a ( light enough ) outboard and stow it in a locker when on any significant sailing trip. An outboard of 4-5 hp would be more than enough. When an outboard is lifted from a well, there's a surprising amount of turbulence & noise, also drag; good boats have a 'fairing plug' one simply inserts, giving a quiet, low drag hull and greatly increased sailing speed. This is not for extreme racing, it's simply for getting to the destination before dark / closing time !  

• 29 Aug 2011

Thanks for the replies Just thought that I would say thanks to everyone for the detailed replies. Just to give a bit more context I currently have a cruiser on the River Blackwater but hanker after sailing in different locations e.g. Norfolk Broads, Lake District, Irish Lakes, Scottish Coast when I retire next year. This would involve perhaps two or three trips a year with a week or so in each location so I wouldn't be continually launching and recovering and could keep the boat on my current mooring (or the front drive) for the rest of the time. I particularly asked about the Pippin as there seems a few for sale and at over 6ft tall I need something with a bit of space. I tried a Cornish Shrimper at the London Boat Show a few years ago and couldn't even sit upright in her! If anyone has any alternative suggestions for suitable boats I would be pleased to hear them. Once again, thanks everyone. Bob  

Robert, I've been restraining myself but since you asked... www.anderson22class.co.uk Do have a look at the 'Buyers Guide' as well as the rest. Fast & seaworthy, and trailable as long as one's not doing it every weekend. Good sitting headroom, while not a floating caravan I've spent weekends with 4 adults on board and 3 week cruises around the Channel Isles etc with 3 adults, 2 in the forepeak.  

• 30 Aug 2011

R0bert said: Just thought that I would say thanks to everyone for the detailed replies. Just to give a bit more context I currently have a cruiser on the River Blackwater but hanker after sailing in different locations e.g. Norfolk Broads, Lake District, Irish Lakes, Scottish Coast when I retire next year. This would involve perhaps two or three trips a year with a week or so in each location so I wouldn't be continually launching and recovering and could keep the boat on my current mooring (or the front drive) for the rest of the time. I particularly asked about the Pippin as there seems a few for sale and at over 6ft tall I need something with a bit of space. I tried a Cornish Shrimper at the London Boat Show a few years ago and couldn't even sit upright in her! If anyone has any alternative suggestions for suitable boats I would be pleased to hear them. Once again, thanks everyone. Bob Click to expand...

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If you're after a boat you can trailer sail, I'd look at a Baycruiser 20/23 from Swallowboats, The waterballast means that for trailing you don't need a braked trailer, so the trailer is less complicated. D  

northwind said: If you're after a boat you can trailer sail, I'd look at a Baycruiser 20/23 from Swallowboats, The waterballast means that for trailing you don't need a braked trailer, so the trailer is less complicated. D Click to expand...

If one must trail sail at all regularly, the BayCruiser 20 looks by far the best boat for the job I've ever seen, a lovely design with character; hope they do well.  

The baycruisers are certainly a joy to look at on the outside but below decks left the DLW stone cold. The price tag ended any interest I might have had right there and then! The carbon mast just doesn't look right on an otherwise traditional appearing boat. Yep, I know why it's got a carbon mast and any doubts one might have about the stability of the Pippin 20 I'd have in spades with regard to the Baycruiser. Yes, with the water tanks full the ballast ratio is a good deal higher but it carries that ballast within the hull not in the bulb on a lowered plate I do think the Baycruiser is a clever blend of modern innovation and traditional qualities (OK, it's a blend that doesn't appeal to me but that doesn't make it bad or wrong) however I'd class it as a daysailer / weekender. I wouldn't want to spend a week aboard one whereas I could happily see myself aboard a Pippin 20 for a week or 10 days  

There has been a Pippin for sale on Ancasta's site for ages.. http://www.ancasta.com/boat_details/?BoatId=25226&filters=V2X9AJXZNtu5C5vosN8bULMoeKmpz5Gh5d0F2K7L1T5hcVNAD9R9ORYEMHtt6igFlrXYRE8OyJt5BMceHMWMlQ==  

Brigantia, I'd suspected as much, it's just to my less than rabidly keen view on trail-sailing, it seems these are among the many sacrifices one must make...  

Seajet said: Brigantia, I'd suspected as much, it's just to my less than rabidly keen view on trail-sailing, it seems these are among the many sacrifices one must make... Click to expand...

Just add my thoughts. The ballast isn't too much of an issue. My Seahawk had about 220 Kgs of ballast in a stub keel and a 30Kg steel drop keel. It was pretty stiff compared to a boat like a Bennie 211 or a Sadler 25 (bigger boats, I know, and carrying a smaller rig). The form stability, as mentioned, is probably as big a factor. The Pippin seems to have a bit of a chine, so I would think it's initially a bit stiff but once it's rolled over the chine may be a bit tender. The shot they show on the website looks a bit over-pressed for attracting a family cruising customer. I would want to try one out in a f4 to make sure you won't be picking up all your crockery every time it blows a bit. Launch/recovery on the Lakes is easy enough, and I assume is good on the Broads. The problem with day-sailing on a tidal slip is that it may look a lot different when you come back to the slip than when you launched. Getting a boat onto the trailer in a cross current or wind, or with a chop running can be a 3 man job. Looks a decent boat, but needs a lot of consideration. Lots of people don't keep their first boat for that long as they begin to realise what it is they value and start to look for something more suitable. (I'm assuming you haven't had sailing cruisers before)  

I had a good look at the Pippin 20 when looking for my boat. I also had a look at the Beneteau 21 and the Red Fox. Thoughts on the Pippin are as follows: - Well designed. Makes good use of the space available - Well made by people who have passion about their product - It's still in production, meaning it is easier to get replacement parts or advice if needed. - A bit light (as others have mentioned). I suspect you would need to reef early - You won't sleep comfortably in the forecabin if you're 6 foot. I'm 6 foot and didn't fit. You would need to create an infill on the starboard side. You won't be able to sleep on the port side as there is a bulk head to separate the V berth from the kitchen and you won't be able to put an infill here. - the chemical loo is under the V berth. I personally don't like this as I don't like the smell. It can also create issues if one person is trying to sleep whilst the other wants to do their ablutions - The weight quoted (I think it's about 970Kg) is a base weight. By the time you've put a mast and sails on it, some equipment in it etc, expect it to weigh at least 1200Kg. The trailer will be another 300Kg or so. Make sure your tow car can legally tow 1600Kg. The other comments about trailer sailing apply - The advantages to having the outboard in a well in the cockpit are (in my opinion) outweighed by the advantages of having the outboard on a bracket on the transom. You could move the outboard onto the transom if you wanted to. - When moving the boat, you will need to factor in a day to get the boat on a trailer and de-rig her. You will also want to factor in a day to get the boat rigged and launched at the destination.  

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The Pippin 20 is a popular small yacht, providing safe family cruising with good accommodation for her size and good handling under power and sail. With her modest draft and lifting keel the Pippin 20 is ideally suited to East Coast cruising and is capable of being trailered behind the average family car.

Accommodation

The accommodation offers up to four berths in a single cabin.

The accommodation offers up to four berths in a single cabin. V berth forward with infill cushions creating a double, stowage under and hatch to foredeck above. Saloon with Settee berths port and starboard. Galley to centre with stainless steel sink with manually pumped water supply and integral Smev two burner gas hob and stowage beneath. Step up to self draining cockpit with seating and stowage lockers to port and starboard with outboard well to centre. Full interior lighting. Coach roof and interior walls lined in blue carpet with inset beech panels.

Mechanical Systems

Located in outboard motor well,  2012 Mariner 6 hp, 4 stroke outboard. Manual start. 3 bladed  aluminium propeller. Cruising speed 4.5 knots. Maximum speed 5.5 knots.

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1 x 12V Battery 

Sails & Spars

Masthead rigged sloop. Anodised aluminium mast and boom. Stainless steel standing rigging (2004). Terylene running rigging (2009). Slab reefing to mainsail. Headsail furling system.

Mainsail - 2004 - good

Genoa - 2004 - good

Deck Equipment

Danforth anchor with warp and chain

Stainless steel pulpit, pushpit, stanchions & lifelines

Boarding ladder

Various fenders & warps

Barton single speed sheet winches x 2

Barton B08 single speed halyard winch x 1

Navigation Equipment

NASA Clipper Duet speed and log

NASA Clipper Duet sounder

NASA Marine wind speed/direction indicator

Navigation lights

Safety Equipment

Fire extinguisher (expiry date unknown)

Fire blanket

Construction

Built in 2004 by Pippin Yachts Limited to a design by Tony Tucker. White GRP hull with blue/yellow style lines. White superstructure with moulded- in non-slip to decks. Hardwood rubbing strake. Iron lifting keel. Tiller steering to lifting transom hung rudder. Self draining cockpit and anchor locker. Hardwood coachroof rails.

The Pippin 20 is a popular small yacht, providing safe family cruising with good accommodation for her size and good handling under power and sail.  With her modest draft and lifting keel the Pippin 20 is ideally suited to East Coast cruising and is capable of being trailered behind the average family car. Viewing by appointment through Howard Ford Marine Sales.

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The Pippin 20 is 21 feet long and has a 7.8 feet beam

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• Boat REF#  ·  201244
• Length  ·  6.30m
• Year  ·  1990
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• Underwater profile  ·  Lifting Keel
• Sleeping berths  ·  4
• Engine  ·  1 x 6hp, Mercury ()
• Lying  ·  St Mawes

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The Pippin 20 is a proper little cruising yacht and a true trailer sailer with a low centre of gravity can be towed behind the average family saloon. It is a pretty amazing use of space with 4 decent sized berths and feels like a much bigger boat internally. This one has been out of the water this year after a change in direction by the owner and needs a general spruce up, especially as far as the carpets are concerned, but nothing that a weekend and a bit of elbow grease couldn't put right. Once this is done it will be a great little boat and ideal for a beginner.

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 2007 Pippin 20

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Construction.

• GRP construction
• Original gelcoat finish throughout
• Lifting keel
• Keel can be left at any desired height between fully raised and fully lowered (winch located forward of bulkhead in forecabin)
• Transom hung rudder and tiller (easily removed when moored in shallow waters)
• Non slip decks
• Self draining cockpit
• 2 x cockpit lockers
• Anchor well in foredeck
• Wooden rubbing strakes and toerails
• Wooden handrail on coachroof
• Built in early 2007 and first registered 13th March 2007
• 3 owners from new including vendor
• Last ashore winter 2021/22 and understood to have been wintered ashore most winters
• Last antifouled May 2021
• No recent survey (none required yet as only 15 years old)
• Weight believed to be approximately 850kg (easily towed by average family saloon)

Mechanical & Electrical

• 4hp Mercury F4M 4-stroke outboard motor (2011, last serviced winter 2021/22)
• Outboard mounted inboard in cockpit well
• 12V battery (charged via mains when required)

Rigging & Sails

• Bermudan Masthead Sloop rig
• Alloy mast/spars
• Stainless steel A-frame for mast lowering/raising
• Single winch on coachroof
• Headsail roller reefing gear
• Mainsail (good condition)
• Jib (good condition)
• All lines led back to cockpit for single handed sailing

Accommodation

• 4 berths in 1 cabin
• Blue velour upholstery with matching backrests (all in very good condition)
• Blue headlinings (all in good order)
• Double berth forwards (narrowing at bow)
• 2 x single quarter berths (also providing saloon area settee seating)
• Forecabin area could easily be separated from main accommodation area with additional of privacy curtain
• Galley with stainless steel combined stove/sink unit (2 gas rings supplied via pipework from gas cylinder in port cockpit locker, hand pumped cold water supply) and stowage
• Small cabin table (mounted over keel housing)
• Chemical toilet on sliding dolly in forecabin (very neatly stored when out of use and far more accessible than if housed under berth)
• 12V cabin lights
• Tinted windows (providing privacy without need for curtains)
• Escape/ventilation hatch over forecabin
• Maximum headroom approximately 1.53m (5ft) at the hatch
• Boat Safety Scheme certificate to 28th March 2023
• Fire extinguishers and fire blanket
• Stainless steel pulpit and pushpit rails (latter with integrated mast support)
• Stanchions with guardwire
• Stainless steel transom mounted boarding ladder
• Masthead wind indicator
• 2 x mudweights
• Various mooring warps
• Various fenders
• 2 x solid bulkhead mounted storage pockets/halyard tidies in cockpit
• Winter cover
• Wooden washboards (3 part)
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Believed to have been kept on the Norfolk Broads since new (just 15 years ago), this Pippin 20 is a really nice example – despite the best efforts of the tree overhead! Solidly built, and offering a modern interior layout, she provides comfortable accommodation for up to four in a light and bright, very well presented cabin. With her lifting keel and rudder, she’s ideally suited to sailing in and exploring shallow waters and creeks, whether that be inland as now, or on the coast. Easily handled, the Pippin 20 is an ideal option if you’re looking for a first boat, are downsizing from a larger yacht or, with the addition of a suitable trailer, for trailer sailing. For sale due to a change of plans/vendor’s desire to downsize.

Please note: No trailer is available or included in the sale.

MOORING: Subject to negotiation and agreement from the mooring owner, it’s understood that the vessel’s current northern Broads mooring may be available to the purchaser until 31st March 2023 (current cost c.£700pa). Any extension thereafter, if available, would be at the berth owner’s discretion.

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• Boat REF#  ·  310736
• Length  ·  6.30m
• Year  ·  1999
• Construction  ·  GRP
• Underwater profile  ·  Lifting Keel
• Sleeping berths  ·  4
• Engine  ·  1 x gasoline 5hp, Honda (1999)
• Lying  ·  Medway, Kent

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Sloop rigged Z-Spars Aluminium spars (1999) with Stainless Steel standing rigging (1999)

Electrical Systems

12 volt battery, 1 batteries charged by: engine

Construction

The general build quality inside and out is superb with everything being made by hand in the one workshop in England, the upholstery in particular stands out as being as good as the best. Power is by outboard, 4hp is all you need. An outboard well puts the power in front of the transom hung rudder for superb control in ahead or astern and keeps the prop in the water in a seaway. This arrangement also allows for easy motor sailing on either tack if you are in a hurry. And what makes all this so good is that it only weighs 850kg and 1200kg on its road trailer ready to tow by just about any family car so you really can keep it at home over winter and do all those maintenance jobs.

Accommodation

It has 4 berths but most owners would say it is great for 2 or 3 adults/teenagers or 2 adults and 2 small children. The beds are spacious but if you use them all four of them then all your coats and lifejackets etc seem to be in the way at night. There is full cooking and sink facilities (double burner) and the toilet arrangement is ingenious. The loo simply slides away in the fore cabin on its own plinth during the day. The plinth keeps it at just the right height and it slides out for use with maximum headroom and legroom. If you want to use the double V berth at night the loo can be moved to a second plinth opposite the keel box which again gives maximum headroom and legroom in use. Way better than trying to cram an unusable small heads in a little boat. Headroom is excellent for a little boat, five feet at the hatch and storage is plentiful. One of the cleverest bits of the design is the use of the fore cabin during the day. The coach roof extends forward of the mast to give good headroom in the first part of the fore cabin. This allows the bed cushions to be repositioned into two very comfortable single chairs facing each other across the boat and this in turn takes pressure for space off the main cabin seating. Too many small boats treat the space in front of the mast as a permanent double bed making the small main cabin cramped during the day. The main cabin is very spacious due to the boat being very wide (eight feet) and the side decks being very narrow. It is possible to sit seven adults in the two cabins in comfort which is amazing for such a small boat.

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2 halyard winches 2 sheet winches 1 anchors 7.00m of chain The narrow side decks are still wide enough to make your way forward on deck should you need to and are a way better compromise than the common small boat approach of sending the guard wires over the cabin roof and omitting side decks altogether. The lifting keel is simple and easy to maintain at home and the boat can take the ground with the keel raised with only a slight heel.

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The general build quality inside and out is superb with everything being made by hand in the one workshop in England.

The upholstery, in particular, stands out as being as good as the best. Power is by outboard, 5hp is all you need. An outboard well puts the power in front of the transom hung rudder for superb control in ahead or astern and keeps the prop in the water in a seaway. This arrangement also allows for easy motor sailing on either tack if you are in a hurry.

And what makes all this so good is that it only weighs 850kg and 1200kg on its road trailer so ready to tow by just about any family car so you really can keep it at home over winter and do all those maintenance jobs.

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For Sale: Pippin 20ft Trailer Sailer

A well maintained 6.30m ( 20 ’8”) trailer sailer in good condition built by Pippin Yachts, Boston Lincolnshire in 2005. Design...

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Pippin 20 Trailer Sailer Sailing Yacht

A well cared for all-rounder suitable for sea, estuary or lake sailing, with a lifting keel making it very easy to launch and recover. Designed to be stable and straightforward to handle with all necessary running rigging leading back to the cockpit, it is especially easy for single handed sailing. Incredibly Spacious cabin for a 20ft Yacht, with four berths and ample storage space. Fixed galley with sink and two burner gas cooking stove and table. Chemical toilet .

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