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The Hunter 27 is a boat built to a price--a low price--and it shows; but it may represent a good value.

The Hunter 27 is the smallest boat in the Hunter line, which runs up to 43′ in length. The Hunter 27 is a popular boat with first-time sailboat buyers, and with small-boat sailors purchasing their first auxiliary cruising boat. Since the boat was introduced in 1975, thousands have been built.

Like other boats with a reasonably long production run, the Hunter 27 has gone through minor changes since its introduction. Wheel steering is now standard. The boat utilizes a split backstay to allow a stern boarding ladder and to prevent the helmsman from hitting his head on a centerline backstay. All the ports open for ventilation, The mainsheet lead has been altered, and there have been other minor modifications, such as a switch to European-style pulpits and running lights.

Judging from the response of Hunter owners we’ve talked to, all Hunters, including the 27, are purchased for one reason: price. The Hunter 27 is just about the cheapest diesel-powered 27′ cruising boat money can buy.

In their advertising literature, Hunter stresses that efficiency in construction, standardization of components, and low overhead keep their prices low, To some extent, this is true, and it is neither new, nor is it anything to be ashamed of. The Herreshoff Manufacturing Company, known neither for cheap boats nor low quality, pioneered in component standardization and assembly-line construction.

By eliminating factory-installed options, every Hunter 27 can be built the same. No going to the stockroom for an optional item. No time-consuming reading of each boat’s specifications as it moves down the assembly line. There are trade-offs, however.

An inability to custom-tailor a boat. A lack of flexibility in deck layout. The Hunter 27 owner must customize his boat at the dealer level, or do it himself. This appeals to dealers, who often make as much on the installation of options as they do on commissions.

The Hunter 27 is a bit high-sided and sterile looking. High freeboard and a high cabin trunk are almost necessary in a 27, boat that claims over 6′ of headroom. The sterility comes from the Hunter bone white on bone white color scheme, and paucity of external teak trim. Exterior teak is to the fiberglass boatbuilding industry what chrome is to Detroit. There are no hull and deck color options.

Construction

Construction of the Hunter 27 is solid glass layup, with plywood reinforcement in high-stress areas such as winch mountings and locker tops. Gelcoat and finish quality of the hull molding are good. No roving printthrough is evident, and the hull is quite fair—more than can be said for many more expensive boats.

The hull-to-deck joint of the Hunter 27 is simple and strong. The hull molding has an internal flange molded at right angles to the hull at deck level. This flange is heavily coated with adhesive bedding, the deck molding is laid over the flange, and the joint covered with a slotted aluminum toerail which is through-bolted with stainless steel bolts at 6-inch intervals. This is an obvious and very satisfactory answer to the hull-to-deck joint problem. The flaying surfaces of the joint appear to match well, and the adhesive compound has squeezed out along the joint where it can be inspected.

Across the transom, the joint is less satisfactory. The gelcoat and putty with which the joint is faired at the stern was sloppy on every Hunter 27 we examined.

The keel of the Hunter 27 is a narrow, high aspect lead fin weighing 3,000 lbs. The shoal draft version has a much shallower lead fin weighing 3,200 lbs. The additional weight of the shoal keel is to make up for the shift in the vertical center of gravity of the boat that would occur if a shoal keel of the same weight as the deep fin were to be used.

The keel-to-hull joint has caused problems in some Hunter 27s. The narrowness of the lead keel at the point of attachment to the hull results in considerable leverage on the hull when the boat heels. Several Hunter 27 owners who returned The Practical Sailor boat owner evaluations report oilcanning of the hull, leaking keelbolts, or vertical misalignment of the hull and keel. We have observed this vertical misalignment in the Hunter 25, but we have not seen it specifically in the 27.

The chainplates of the Hunter 27 consist of stainless steel U-bolts fastened through the anodized aluminum toerail. No backing plates are used with these. The chainplates are likely to carry any load to which they will normally be subjected. However, a simple U-bolt, no matter how heavy, is a poor choice for a primary chainplate unless the arc of the U-bolt is radiused to the diameter of the clevis pin which goes through it, and unless the strain on the bolt lines up with its vertical axis, U-bolt chainplates of the correct configuration are used in some European boats, notably the Nicholson and Bowman lines. Both of these lines of boats carry Lloyd’s Bureau of Shipping classification certificates. We strongly suggest that Hunter 27 owners consider installing aluminum or stainless steel backing plates under their U-bolt chainplates, and check them periodically to be sure that the nuts are tight. With only two nuts on each shroud anchorage, this check is extremely important.

The rig is a modern, high aspect ratio masthead sloop. The mast is a deck-stepped, white Kenyon spar, supported by a wood compression column attached to the main bulkhead. We have seen no sign of compression stress in the Hunter 27 mast step.

Hunter uses gate valves on underwater skin fittings, We prefer seacocks. We also prefer some kind of shutoff valve on any skin fitting remotely near the waterline. Few builders provide them. Hunter is no exception.

Handling Under Sail

The Hunter 27 comes with a mainsail and 110% genoa. The total sail area with this configuration is 360 square feet, an average amount for a modern 7,000 lb boat. A larger genoa will be required for sailing in light-air areas.

Despite a ballast/displacement ratio of almost 43%, owners do not consider the Hunter 27 a stiff boat under sail. They also consider the boat’s performance under sail only fair to good. There are several reasons for the boat’s mediocre sailing qualities.

First of all, the boat comes factory-equipped with sails. This means cheaper sails, for they are bought in quantity by the builder. It also, almost inevitably, means sails that are not designed for specific local conditions. Average sails make for average performance.

There is no provision for headsail sheeting angle adjustment. Without a genoa track, all headsails must sheet to the slotted toerail. On a wide 27-footer with this arrangement, the headsail slot will rarely be the proper width for good windward performance.

With a small headsail, the lead will almost always be too far outboard.

There is also no traveler for the main sheet. This limits the creation of the proper angle of attack of the mainsail, and complicates draft control.

A relatively fat boat such as the Hunter 27 rapidly acquires weather helm as the boat heels. This is due in part to the asymmetry of the boat’s submerged sections. The judicious use of sail controls such as travelers, vangs, and flattening reefs greatly enhances the ability to keep the boat sailing on her feet, which will help reduce weather helm. Hunter 27 owners complain that the boat suffers from extreme weather helm.

Chainplates set at the outboard edge of the deck also compromise windward performance. This arrangement makes it almost impossible to close the slot effectively with a large headsail.

If the Hunter 27 were equipped with well-made sails, inboard chainplates, inboard and outboard headsail tracks, a good vang, and a mainsheet traveler, we suspect that there would be a substantial improvement in the boat’s windward ability. There would also be a marked difference in price. Should you desire to make these changes, the parts would probably cost upwards of $1,500. Then the problems begin. How do you attach the chainplates? Will the deck take the vertical loading that will be on the track? Can the boom handle heavy vang loads? We are not talking about turning the Hunter 27 into a hot racer. We are only talking about improving the performance of the boat to a reasonable level for cruising.

Windward performance, then, is one of the tradeoffs made for low price. Only the prospective purchaser, after considering how the boat is to be used, can decide how much that is worth. Since the shoal-draft Hunter 27 is more heavily ballasted than the deep-draft version, its stability is likely to be similar. However, the deep, high aspect ratio fin is likely to be more efficient.

Handling Under Power

With only eight horsepower to push around a 7,000 lb, high-sided boat, do not expect a Hunter 27 to be a sprightly performer under power.

In 1979, the power plant of the Hunter 27 was changed from the eight horsepower Renault diesel. The Renault diesels were relatively untried in the US marine market. The early Yanmar engines, though noisy and noted for their vibration, are also known for their reliability.

At least one owner we talked to was, to put it mildly, disappointed with the Renault installation. Although the engine runs well, the attachment of the shifting mechanism to the transmission lever has the disconcerting habit of vibrating itself loose. When docking, the results of this shortcoming could be less than amusing to both the boat owner and his insurance company.

Owners of Renault-powered Hunter 27s should definitely be aware of this potential problem.

Another owner reported leaking strut bolts and shaft wear due to improper shaft alignment, All engine installations should be realigned after the boat is launched for the first time. This should be a routine part of commissioning, but it rarely is. A given used Hunter 27 may not have had it done.

Engine access is good, behind the removable companionway ladder. There is partial soundproofing in the engine enclosure, but not enough to shield the interior from a substantial amount of noise.

Fuel capacity is 12.5 gallons, in an aluminum tank located in the starboard cockpit locker. The tank is held in place by a stainless steel strap, There is no grounding jumper between the fuel fill and the tank. This is in violation of the standards for fuel tank installation of the American Boat and Yacht Council, which sets minimum standards used in the industry.

Owners consider the boat underpowered with either the Renault or Yanmar engines. They consider the boat’s performance under power only fair to good.

Deck Layout

Because the Hunter 27’s decks are relatively free of sail control hardware, there are relatively few toe stubbers. Even the grayest cloud has a silver lining.

New Hunter 27s have international style running lights mounted on the bow and stern pulpits. These are far superior to the in-hull running lights on older Hunters, and better than those used on many more expensive boats. New boats also have a good-sized foredeck anchor well, incorporating a well-designed latch and a heavy stainless steel eye for the attachment of the bitter end of the anchor rode. The well has a large scupper which drains through the stem.

Although owners consider the cockpit of the Hunter 27 small, we find it comfortable for five, and certainly large enough for a 27′ boat. Wheel steering has definitely made the cockpit seem bigger. With five people in the cockpit, the stern of the boat begins to squat. A bigger cockpit would only encourage sailing with more people, causing the boat to squat even more.

Late models have Yacht Specialties pedestal steering. There is good provision for an emergency tiller, which is supplied with the boat.

Access to the steering gear is excellent, through the lazarette locker. Unfortunately, because the steering gear, scupper hoses, and exhaust hose go through this locker, it cannot be used for storage. To do so would be to risk damage to vital parts of the ship’s systems.

There is a large locker under the starboard cockpit seat. Unfortunately, because the fuel tank is located in this locker, nothing can really be stowed there without risking damage to the fuel system. Wet lines or sails stored in the locker would drip on the aluminum tank, inviting corrosion. Shelves installed in both these lockers would make them more useful.

To raise the cockpit sill above the level of the lowest cockpit coaming, the lower drop-board must be left in place, This complicates access below when underway, but having the companionway blocked up to deck level is essential for sailing in unsheltered waters or heavy weather.

The cockpit bulkhead slopes forward. This means that a dodger must be installed if one wishes to ventilate the cabin in rain or heavy weather.

The high cockpit coamings provide good backrests for those sitting in the cockpit. They should also help keep the cockpit dry. These coamings have moldedin sheet winch islands. The owner wishing to upgrade to winches larger than the standard Lewmar 7s will discover that the islands are too small for a much larger winch. For the owner who wishes to use a large genoa, this could be a real problem. Despite these shortcomings, the T-shaped cockpit is reasonably comfortable, and is one of the boat’s better design features.

The Hunter 27 is a roomy boat. Headroom is just over 6′ under the main hatch, and almost 5′ 10″ at the forward end of the main cabin.

The forepeak contains a double berth. Aft of that cabin is a full-width head. Newer Hunter 27s have a holding tank system. Older boats are likely to have portable heads.

The main cabin has settee berths port and starboard. These settees extend under the forward bulkhead. While this arrangement reduces seating area, it also allows more room for the galley and quarterberth. It’s a reasonable trade-off.

To port, at the aft end of the cabin, there is a quarterberth. A folding chart table is located over the forward end of the quarterberth. To starboard is the galley, with sink, two-burner alcohol stove, and icebox.

With eight opening ports, two opening hatches, and the companionway, ventilation in newer Hunter 27s is excellent at anchor in good weather. Older models have fewer opening ports. As with many boats, there is no provision for ventilation in heavy weather.

With a molded glass headliner, teak-finished bulkheads, solid teak trim, and teak cabin sole, the cabin has a finished appearance. There is good storage for a boat of this size for short-term cruising. Joinerwork is of fair stock boat quality.

Conclusions

A new Hunter 27 in the ’80s was about the least expensive boat in its class—far cheaper than many other boats of this size. The boat also comes standard with items that are optional on other boats, such as wheel steering, life jackets, anchor, and fire extinguishers.

However, it is not realistic to expect a boat that is 15% cheaper than another boat of the same size and type to be equivalent in quality. There is just so much that efficiency, standardization, and bulk buying can do toward reducing the price of a boat. Inevitably, the price of a boat is a function the time, materials, and incidental costs that go into it. There is no magic way to reduce the cost of building a boat.

The Hunter 27 graphically demonstrates how costs can be reduced. A great deal of time is saved in construction by hurrying finish work, by using staples instead of screws, by eliminating the necessity to customize each boat.

Hunter owners are the first to admit the influence that the low price of the boat had on their boat-buying decision. Many are happy with their boats, some are defensive about them, and others are really unhappy with them. For the relatively unsophisticated sailboat buyer—the new sailor, the powerboat convert—the Hunter 27 may represent a good value. As his experience grows, we expect he will be willing to pay more, in order to get more.

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Thank you for this article as I, a novice am about to rehab and deal with a 1978 Hunter. As I go through this I suspect many a sentence will ring in my mind to remind me what an experienced sailor has: time to reflect on learning experiences and sharing it with others. Best Wishes and fair winds – Alex Schult

I have a 1979 Hunter 27 I have completely restored her I re manned a yanmar 20gmf new North Sailes new standing and running rigging keel bolts do not leak self tailing winches yes she is a production boat but points and sails fine for cruising. Interior completely renovated hmmn no staples! I have seen and been on some so called higher end boats quality and preformence is a matter of opinion you need deep pockets for a custom boat if you have the $$$ go for it for me I’ll stick with my Hunter 27 Aura great boat without breaking the bank!😎

Hey Theodore, I’ve owned a 82 Hunter 27’ for over 20 years. I took a job about 5 years ago that included a lot of international travel and found myself using my boat for doc candy and Christmas decorations at our home doc. So, I’m beginning a complete refrub, which includes a new Yanmar motor (ouch). I’ve got quite a bit of interior and exterior rehab with not a lot of experience. Anyway I could pull on some of your experience?

We purchased a 1979 Hunter 27 in 2020 as an upgrade from our Nordica 16. Our territory (the Baie de Chaleurs) in northern New Brunswick Canada has a reputation for unpredictable winds and weather. I installed wheel steering (an Edson outfit) which greatly improved my enjoyment. However, I still has issued with docking using the low-cockpit controls for the Yanmar diesel. Researching for solutions, I came across the website of “Electric Yacht” out of Minnesota. So, in 2021, I converted the drive to electric. It has taken me two years to sell the Yanmar. The conversion cost me around $15,000 CA including 4 hours for a machinist to align the propeller shaft and electric motor properly (the hardest part). We are more than happy with the results. Docking now is a joy. I even learned to back-in to our berth and my eyes are always on my surroundings. All the controls are on my binacle The 10 KW motor uses four 150 AmpHr lithium iron-phosphate batteries and works flawlessly. We have even crossed the bay to Quebec twice under just power alone. No gas, no fumes, no noise. He are happy saiiers 🙂

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Hunter 27 is a 27 ′ 1 ″ / 8.3 m monohull sailboat designed by John Cherubini and built by Hunter Marine between 1974 and 1984.

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Hull Speed = 1.34 x √LWL

Max Speed/Length ratio = 8.26 ÷ Displacement/Length ratio .311 Hull Speed = Max Speed/Length ratio x √LWL

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A measure of the power of the sails relative to the weight of the boat. The higher the number, the higher the performance, but the harder the boat will be to handle. This ratio is a "non-dimensional" value that facilitates comparisons between boats of different types and sizes. Read more.

SA/D = SA ÷ (D ÷ 64) 2/3

• SA : Sail area in square feet, derived by adding the mainsail area to 100% of the foretriangle area (the lateral area above the deck between the mast and the forestay).
• D : Displacement in pounds.

Ballast / Displacement Ratio

A measure of the stability of a boat's hull that suggests how well a monohull will stand up to its sails. The ballast displacement ratio indicates how much of the weight of a boat is placed for maximum stability against capsizing and is an indicator of stiffness and resistance to capsize.

Ballast / Displacement * 100

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A measure of the weight of the boat relative to it's length at the waterline. The higher a boat’s D/L ratio, the more easily it will carry a load and the more comfortable its motion will be. The lower a boat's ratio is, the less power it takes to drive the boat to its nominal hull speed or beyond. Read more.

D/L = (D ÷ 2240) ÷ (0.01 x LWL)³

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds.
• LWL: Waterline length in feet

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This ratio assess how quickly and abruptly a boat’s hull reacts to waves in a significant seaway, these being the elements of a boat’s motion most likely to cause seasickness. Read more.

Comfort ratio = D ÷ (.65 x (.7 LWL + .3 LOA) x Beam 1.33 )

• D: Displacement of the boat in pounds
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This formula attempts to indicate whether a given boat might be too wide and light to readily right itself after being overturned in extreme conditions. Read more.

CSV = Beam ÷ ³√(D / 64)

Shoal draft/wing keel: 3.25’, Disp. 7200 lbs. Later boats were available with Yanmar diesel.

Tall Rig: I: 37.50’/11.43m J: 11.30’/3.44m P: 32.30’/9.85m E: 9.30’/2.83m Total (100%): 362 ft2/33.63m2

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Novice sailors and veterans alike appreciate a boat that is easy to sail, packed with extra value and offers plenty of performance. The exciting Hunter 27 delivers all that and much more, resulting in an exceptional weekend cruiser with all the comforts of home. The Hunter 27's impressive interior incorporates a refreshing sense of spaciousness with its large salon and 6’2” headroom. This interior shares the same warm, elegant design and materials with the largest Hunters.

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Pros & Cons of Hunter 27 - 1990 Jim Taylor design

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Would appreciate any comments positive or negative regarding performance or problems, or user-friendliness of the Hunter 27, 1990 Jim Taylor design.Any problems with rigging, engine, layout or design? This is our 10 year boat - moving up from the good old Hunter 22' - if we decide to make the leap! The Hunter 22' will be very hard to part with and all feedback pro or con re: 27' would be appreciated!  

Stephen J Baltes

H-27 was wonderful My first Hunter was a 1990 27 outboard version. Owned it for several years and never a minutes trouble from her. It was our first cabin boat, we moved up from an 18' Chrysler Buccaneer and it seemed thoughtfully designed, well laid out and very comfortable for 26 1/2 feet. It sailed very well in light to moderate winds, and required reefing about 15-18 knots.Overall it was a great boat. I'm in a new Hunter 320 now, and the H-27 was a big part of the reason I went back to Hunter for my present boat. Good luck.  

Larry McKay

Great cruising boat I've sailed a 1990 27' Hunter (wheel) for 3 years along the coast of Maine. Really enjoy the diesel,cabin layout,enclosed head and cockpit room. Boat sails well however,it certainly is not for raceing. Also fuel gage is difficult to read.Longest cruise has been one week and is comfortable for two. No problems with sails (furling geona) or hull,equipment etc. Overall,great designed sailboat as a small family daysailer,or two person cruiser---(it helps if your married)  

Hunter 27 for 7 years This was my first crusing boat with all those big boat features. Diesel,wheelsteering, Hot and cold pressure water,etc. I have never had one problem withthe boat (except for usual inexpensivestuff) The best definition I can givethis boat is "Its the least expensiveboat you can buy with all the big boatstuff" It is easy to sail single handed. Like Stephen I have moved up to a 320 and in many way it comparesto its sail-ability. I'm in the processof selling my 27 and I don't think youcould buy a better boat for the money.  

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The hunter 27 2 is a 26.58ft fractional sloop designed by hunter design team and built in fiberglass by hunter marine (usa) between 1989 and 1994..

The Hunter 27 2 is a light sailboat which is a reasonably good performer. It is very stable / stiff and has a low righting capability if capsized. It is best suited as a day-boat. The fuel capacity is originally very small.

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Looking for our first Sailboat. Sailing newbs, interested in something in the 26-29ft range. Will be using for daysailing, weekends and some longer trips. Mostly sailing in the San Juans and maybe some trips up around Vancouver Island, Desolation Sound etc. Figure its a boat to learn on so looking for something under 10k if possible. Have looked at several boats so far, Catalina 27s, Cal 27, Ericson 27, Santana 27, Oday27, an S2 8.0 and a few others as well. Been all over Craigslist and Yachtworld, etc. Choices are a bit slim here in the Northwest, or I should say boats that don't scare me anyway. Have found a very clean Hunter 27, I believe a 77 or 78 model. It is actuall the first boat we looked at. Has an yanmar 8hp diesel engine, very nice looking sails, very clean inside and out. Anyway was just wondering peoples experience with the Hunter 27 of this vintage. Like I said we are new to sailing and this will be our first boat, so we don't really need anything fancy or capable of bluewater sailing. I figure at this price range we should just find the boat in the best possible shape that meets our needs. But at the same time we really don't want a dog to sail either.  

I might take a second look at the Hunter. I have experience with a sailboat that had an outboard, and it was a real pain. Lots of cavitation. I would never buy a small boat with an outboard again - ever.  

I agree. And in the summer BC waters are very often windless, leading to many engine hours.  

Yeah we found 2 very nice looking boats with outboards and think we might not be happy with that issue. On the one hand they are relatively inexpensive to replace or work on it seems, but it just seems they would be problematic in any kind of swell or chop when you might want them.  

Sounds like you have a good strategy worked out. Be sure to have a professional third party look at the boat you are about to buy. Most will be prettied up for sale, so you want to know there aren't any hidden issues that could easily remove half or all of your investment (wet core, engine). Even if you just want to enjoy it, as is, you could have a hard time selling her yourself later. Welcome aboard. First boat is very exciting!  

We had a dockmate with a Hunter 27. It was a great boat for him, and performed very well. He had it I think for at least 10 years before moving up to a Hunter 34. Personally, I think it would make a great first boat. Having the diesel will also be good for keeping the batteries up if you take trips, which it appears is part of your plans.  

aeronca said: Looking for our first Sailboat. Sailing newbs, interested in something in the 26-29ft range. Will be using for daysailing, weekends and some longer trips. Mostly sailing in the San Juans and maybe some trips up around Vancouver Island, Desolation Sound etc. Figure its a boat to learn on so looking for something under 10k if possible. Have looked at several boats so far, Catalina 27s, Cal 27, Ericson 27, Santana 27, Oday27, an S2 8.0 and a few others as well. Been all over Craigslist and Yachtworld, etc. Choices are a bit slim here in the Northwest, or I should say boats that don't scare me anyway. Have found a very clean Hunter 27, I believe a 77 or 78 model. It is actually the first boat we looked at. Has an yanmar 8hp diesel engine, very nice looking sails, very clean inside and out. Anyway was just wondering peoples experience with the Hunter 27 of this vintage. Like I said we are new to sailing and this will be our first boat, so we don't really need anything fancy or capable of bluewater sailing. I figure at this price range we should just find the boat in the best possible shape that meets our needs. But at the same time we really don't want a dog to sail either. Click to expand...

olson34 said: BTW, you ought to put the 80's Beneteau First 26 on your list. A couple we know bought one for cruising and it's both fast and comfortable. Happy shopping, LB Click to expand...

Oh! I almost forgot about the Pacific Seacraft 24. If I were a single man and did not want for a larger boat, this would be at the top of my list. This has got to be one of the biggest little boats on the market. And the quality seems to be really high.  

Yeah like I was saying above they are very nice looking. Me and my future boat partner were walking the dock with his daughter and we found 2 within 3 slips of each other and we all three said what kind is that lets look for one of those. Then we saw the prices they bring, but yeah at least to my untrained eye they look like a beautiful boat.  

Hello, google, offshore in hunter 27; good news. I used to be against hunters till I had 1979 H27 next to me in slip and saw 2 other hunters, 1978. ....Take a look at below. He is surveyor. Especially look at Catalina 27. BoatUS.com: Boat Reviews by Jack Hornor, N.A.  

Olson34 is spot on - what you need to consider is sailing and build quality. The Hunter 27 from that era is low in both. Look at a Santana 525 - they have a big active fleet in BC and your area. Well made 25 footer which can handle heavy air.  

I think the Cherubini designed Hunters were some of their best as far as design anyway. As far as sailing speed, the difference between the boats mentioned would not be that great. Build quality? From what I have heard better than some of the more recent Hunters. HUNTER 27 Sailboat details on sailboatdata.com  

Thanks Brian, was just over in Victoria a few days ago, I'm on San Juan, I fly charter flights into Victoria every week of so. Or Sidney I should say. Yeah I read conflicting things on the hunters, some say there the worst of the worst, some say not so bad, some say better than Catalinas, some say the Cheribuni designed ones were good sailing boats and better built than later models, some say not. The opinions from around here that I get are they are alright but no one has experience with this particular type (27). So I thought I might try on here as there certainly seems to be an abundance of knowledge on Sailnet. Thanks What is that boat in your post? Is that yours, looks nice.  

Canadian Sailcraft 27 - another good choice and there are a few around as well. Maybe a bit over your budget though. 1980 Canadian Sailcraft CS 27 Sail Boat For Sale - www.yachtworld.com CS 27 Sailboat details on sailboatdata.com  

I believe that Brian sails a CS 27, a fast Ray Wall design. Well built and good sailing rep. and with a cruising interior. Just not too many around our side of the continent.  

Probably not too many in Washington but they can be found in many marinas near Victoria.  

While they are over your budget, 2 things to keep in mind. One, they sell for less than asking. Maybe 20% less at a guess. Two, the less you spend on a boat, the more upgrades it may need, for reliability, safety, and convenience. Things like 30 year old rigging, old wiring that might need replacing or upgrading. Not to mention things like soft decks and other problems.  

mitiempo said: While they are over your budget, 2 things to keep in mind. One, they sell for less than asking. Maybe 20% less at a guess. Two, the less you spend on a boat, the more upgrades it may need, for reliability, safety, and convenience. Things like 30 year old rigging, old wiring that might need replacing or upgrading. Not to mention things like soft decks and other problems. Click to expand...

We have a 1984 Catalina 27 (dinette model with aft galley) with a 9.9 Yamaha outboard on it and use it exactly as the OP plans. My biggest complaint would be insufficient power to make it through some of the rapids at tide change (Vancouver second narrows for example). The Yamaha engine has been very reliable as has the boat with no significant problems and minimal annual maintenance costs. The boat handles well and is a good boat to learn on and is easy to single hand. Likely to have to replace standing rigging soon and just did running rigging this spring for under $400.  

'80 H27 Owner I own a 1980 H27 and Have had it for 5 years, and it's been a great boat. I sail on the Chesapeake, and use the boat regularly for day sails, overnights, and occasionally race it on Wednesday nights. The Cherubini designed Hunters are solid boats, sail as well as their peers (Catalina, ODay, Ericson, etc). Based on your intended usage, and that it's your first boat, it would serve you well. It is not a blue water cruiser, nor is it racy, but a good all around classic plastic, coastal cruiser. As you look at boats in this price range and vintage, I think condition becomes possibly the most important variable. I'd buy an older, well maintained boat, over a newer, neglected one any day. In general, boats don't hold up well to neglect. Its a 30 yr old boat, there will be issues with it. Unless you want to spend your free time rebuilding a boat, find one that has been well maintained, upgraded, and used regularly. You will find Hunter, Catalina, Ericson, Beneteau's from that era all reasonably similar. What sets them apart is how well they are maintained. Get it surveyed unless you are willing to gamble on a large repair bill later (yes its expensive but can save you money down the road), make sure the major/expensive things are sound (hull, deck, rigging, motor). The Yanmar Diesel mentioned is much better than the Renault motor that many came with. The H27 would be worthy of consideration if it checks out on inspection. I have also sailed, and owned a Catalina 27 and found it very similar in its sailing manners, speed, feel, and build. They are both decent boats, very common, and have a good resale market when you are ready to get a bigger one.  

Brucerobs2 said: I own a 1980 H27 and Have had it for 5 years, and it's been a great boat. I sail on the Chesapeake, and use the boat regularly for day sails, overnights, and occasionally race it on Wednesday nights. The Cherubini designed Hunters are solid boats, sail as well as their peers (Catalina, ODay, Ericson, etc). Based on your intended usage, and that it's your first boat, it would serve you well. It is not a blue water cruiser, nor is it racy, but a good all around classic plastic, coastal cruiser. As you look at boats in this price range and vintage, I think condition becomes possibly the most important variable. I'd buy an older, well maintained boat, over a newer, neglected one any day. In general, boats don't hold up well to neglect. Its a 30 yr old boat, there will be issues with it. Unless you want to spend your free time rebuilding a boat, find one that has been well maintained, upgraded, and used regularly. You will find Hunter, Catalina, Ericson, Beneteau's from that era all reasonably similar. What sets them apart is how well they are maintained. Get it surveyed unless you are willing to gamble on a large repair bill later (yes its expensive but can save you money down the road), make sure the major/expensive things are sound (hull, deck, rigging, motor). The Yanmar Diesel mentioned is much better than the Renault motor that many came with. The H27 would be worthy of consideration if it checks out on inspection. I have also sailed, and owned a Catalina 27 and found it very similar in its sailing manners, speed, feel, and build. They are both decent boats, very common, and have a good resale market when you are ready to get a bigger one. Click to expand...

I don't think there is anything wrong with the Hunter from a design/build perspective. Condition is really the issue. And you like the boat. Rather than spend money on a survey first, do a pre-survey to confirm condition. Buy or borrow a good moisture meter - a lot less expensive than a survey. Understanding the Moisture Meter / Electrophysics CT-33 Photo Gallery by Compass Marine at pbase.com In addition to helping before purchase it is handy to have during ownership for regular checks. Have you looked at this link? http://www.sailnet.com/forums/boat-review-purchase-forum/48177-boat-inspection-trip-tips.html Other questions - How old is the rigging? Has the boat been upgraded over the years or is it close to original as far as electronics and other items? A boat that is kept up to date by the owner may be one where things are looked after better than one that is clean but original. Engine maintenance log and receipts are other items to ask about. Hope this helps.  

My Yanmar is 8hp as well, YSE8. Not the best engine for pushing into a choppy sea but adequate for normal use. Sailboats had smaller engines 30 years ago than they do now. All small diesels are fairly noisy - all the more reason to sail. If there is no sound absorbent lining to the engine compartment it can be added.  

Good/Bad As you have seen, in the price range you are looking, there are many more bad boats than good. You found a promising one in this Hunter27, so keep looking so you have a comparison. Things to look out for on the H27 include : rotten compression post at base of mast. If it has it, there will be a very noticeable depression around the mast step, and lots of cracking. Its repairable, but i'd Keep looking, if you see it. Leaks around deck hardware, mast, and soft spots on deck, particularly where the stays and shrouds attach. The rigging does not have use chain plates, which I don't particularly like, but it's fine worked for 30+ Yrs. Check the rudder for delam of outer skin. Can indicate interior damage. Its easily repairable but critical. Check keel bolts, and the stringers for evidence of hard groundings, improper blocking. Motor: The one cylinder diesel motors are definitely more clunky and loud, but I have soundproofing around mine (repowered by PO with Yanmar 1gm10) and it's manageable. The 2cylinder's are smoother/quieter but you'll be hard pressed to find on on a 27 footer. 10 hp is adequate to hit 6k in flat water, slower in the chop. Still preferable to an Outboard. They are very durable if maintained. So, you can find good boats in this price range, but as you have seen, it'll take time and you'll see a lot of crappy boats. I looked at tons of Catalinas, C&C's, Hunters, bene's, etc. Good luck in the hunt, take your time, and have fun. The right boat will find you.  

Thanks Brucerobs, thats just the kind of info I'm looking for. I have also found something interesting over on Vancouver Island, any one familiar with whats involved in buying a Canadian boat. Its used and Canadian made. Maybe I should start new thread. (I ll search first for previous posts I guess) Thanks  

What boat on Vancouver Island? No duty but local taxes would apply.  

There is a CS 27 that sounds to good to be true, may go check it out. I sent you a PM.  

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If you are a boat enthusiast looking to get more information on specs, built, make, etc. of different boats, then here is a complete review of HUNTER 27-2. Built by Hunter Marine (USA) and designed by undefined, the boat was first built in 1989. It has a hull type of Wing Keel and LOA is 8.1. Its sail area/displacement ratio 16.85. Its auxiliary power tank, manufactured by undefined, runs on Diesel.

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HUNTER 27-2 is built by Hunter Marine (USA).

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HUNTER 27-2 was first built in 1989.

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